March for health care!

[1QUICK4]

Because he's going to bring change

[cmspaz]

Originally Posted by 1QUICK4

Because he's going to bring change

You mean receive change... all of ours. And then some.

[Kracka]

Just imagine, every single time you have a company outting that will just be another tax form to file, and another for that venue to process!

[Matt D.]

Finally, some action being taken.

Rehberg Sponsors Bills to Repeal & Repeal-Replace Obamacare
Cites Public Outcry Against Bill, Bad Policy of the Bill and Negative Economic Impacts of the Bill

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Montana’s Congressman, Denny Rehberg, responding to overwhelming public outcry has cosponsored H.R. 4972 which would repeal the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act,” and H.R. 5424 which would repeal the bill and replace it with the Republican alternative that he supported when the health care bill passed in the House. Rehberg has consistently stated that, while health care reform is absolutely necessary, doing the wrong thing would only make things worse.

“Since most of the provisions in this bill don’t even kick in until years from now, we’ve still got time to fix health care with common-sense solutions,” said Rehberg, a member of the Health and Human Services Appropriations Subcommittee. “The bill we’ve got now is so bad, even its supporters are holding their noses, promising it’s just a first step toward some future reform that allegedly would lower costs and increase access. Well, it’s a trillion dollar step in the wrong direction and one we can correct right now.”


Read more: http://rehberg.house.gov/common/popu...nt&itemID=1499

[1ViciousGSX]

[1ViciousGSX]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...nate-approval/

Let's just keep bypassing the system to get what we want.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...nate-approval/

Let's just keep bypassing the system to get what we want.

To be fair, every president has had this power and has exercised it to some extent. But to do this when he and the healthcare reform has been under fire from day one can't help his approval or the people's view of this administration.

I'm getting sick of the brute force tactics.

[1ViciousGSX]

It wasn't needed. The Republicans wanted to have the hearing two weeks ago. Obama and the Dems blocked it on purpose so Obie could do this. They don't want this guy to go through the confirmation process because he would get grilled on his past.

So much for fucking transparency!!

[Kracka]

Why do we even have a house or congress? Everything/one is just getting forced through anyway.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by Kracka

Why do we even have a house or congress? Everything/one is just getting forced through anyway.

That's what happens when you have a dictator for a president.

[Matt D.]

Go go universal healthcare! Oh, wait...

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/health/Do...-98202569.html

[1ViciousGSX]

It's only the beginning.

[1ViciousGSX]

Anybody really surprised? And this isn't coming from Fox News as so many like to say.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/18/he...3&ref=politics

[1ViciousGSX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1-eBz8hyoE&hd=1

[1ViciousGSX]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...n-hassett.html

Here's a chart of your new health care coverage. Anybody besides me see a problem?



Here's the link for the image so you can read it:
http://www.house.gov/brady/pdf/Obamacare_Chart.pdf
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press..._hc_chart.html

[Murlo26]

You mean aside from the fact that it will probably be so complicated shit will take forever to get done. Also so expensive to pay all the people involved that taxes will rise even more!

Or the fact that it is just a shit system perhaps, where everyone has coverage but no one has good coverage. Just a way for the dems to convince the poor people to vote for them again. They aren't paying any more money, why would they care, and they get something they didn't have, a little coverage.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by Murlo26

You mean aside from the fact that it will probably be so complicated shit will take forever to get done. Also so expensive to pay all the people involved that taxes will rise even more!

Or the fact that it is just a shit system perhaps, where everyone has coverage but no one has good coverage. Just a way for the dems to convince the poor people to vote for them again. They aren't paying any more money, why would they care, and they get something they didn't have, a little coverage.

Pretty much, all of the above. ^^^

[Kracka]

Reading the article is seriously scary.

"The new law creates 68 grant programs, 47 bureaucratic entities, 29 demonstration or pilot programs, six regulatory systems, six compliance standards and two entitlements."

"Getting that massive enterprise up and running will be next to impossible. So Democrats streamlined the process by granting Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius the authority to make judgments that can’t be challenged either administratively or through the courts."

"The Congressional Budget Office predicts that premiums for a small number of families who buy their insurance privately will rise by as much as $2,100."

"To pay for this expansion, the bill takes $529 billion from Medicare, with roughly 39 percent of the cut coming from the Medicare Advantage program. This represents a large transfer of resources, sacrificing the care of the elderly in order to increase the Medicaid rolls."

"For all this supposed reform, you, the American taxpayer, can expect a bill to the tune of $569 billion.

Front and center among the new taxes is the 40 percent excise tax on those lucky people with so-called Cadillac health plans. The higher insurance costs that are driven by the government mandates will push many more ordinary plans into Cadillac territory.

If the idea of taxing people with coverage deemed too good doesn’t bother you, maybe the new 3.8 percent tax on investment income will. That will apply even to a small number of home sales, those that generate $250,000 in profit for an individual or $500,000 for a married couple."

[Kracka]

More states standing up for themselves! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...rance-mandate/ Time for the states to all start suing the federal government!

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by Kracka

More states standing up for themselves! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...rance-mandate/ Time for the states to all start suing the federal government!

Don't forget this one:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...enge-continue/