I just want to take a quick poll...

[tpunx99GSX]

I voted for Obama (obviously)
I voted NO on Prop 8. (Proposition that bans gay marriage in CA)

[asshanson]

I also voted NO on the land/water ammendment, all I need is another 3/8% sales tax to bring it almost to 11%, will it never end?

However, I did vote yes for the school bond or whatever it's called to pass.

[Kracka]

Do any Obama supporters realize that the markets are cyclical and always will have peaks/troughs? They can't just keep going up up up forever like the dems want you to believe.

I don't think 96GSXMN was referring to just the financial status of the country though. I happen to agree with him as well. Obama doesn't have a clue what this country needs; he is nothing more than a celebrity who likes hearing his own voice and seeing his picture on TV.

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

Originally Posted by Kracka

Obama doesn't have a clue what this country needs; he is nothing more than a celebrity who likes hearing his own voice and seeing his picture on TV.

May I ask what makes you make this ridiculous statement? I'm not an Obama or McCain supporter. I'm sorry, but this kind of statement just seems likes it's said flat out because you are not an Obama supporter and just that hardcore of a republican.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE

I'm sorry, but this kind of statement just seems likes it's said flat out because you are not an Obama supporter and just that hardcore of a republican.

I'm not a hardcore republican; I disagree with many typical republican views. I've chosen to vote against Obama b/c I don't feel he is even close to being qualified to run this country.

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE

May I ask what makes you make this ridiculous statement? I'm not an Obama or McCain supporter. I'm sorry, but this kind of statement just seems likes it's said flat out because you are not an Obama supporter and just that hardcore of a republican.

So if someone says something bad about Obama or questions him in any way, it's bad. But we as Republicans have heard nothing but whining and name-calling about Bush since he got into office. How is that any different? Kracka simply pointed out a fact that 50% of America just can't see, that Obama has virtually NO experience running anything, much less the country. He has ties to terrorists and racial bigots and changes his position almost weekly, yet that is quietly swept under the carpet so the democratic sheep file in to vote because he's a good speaker.

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

So if someone says something bad about Obama or questions him in any way, it's bad. But we as Republicans have heard nothing but whining and name-calling about Bush since he got into office. How is that any different? Kracka simply pointed out a fact that 50% of America just can't see, that Obama has virtually NO experience running anything, much less the country. He has ties to terrorists and racial bigots and changes his position almost weekly, yet that is quietly swept under the carpet so the democratic sheep file in to vote because he's a good speaker.

First all, I could care less about Obama or McCain. They both have their good and bad, as does everyone. And with Obama having NO experience, you can say that, I do, and unless you're a fucking retard, it's obvious that Obama has FAR LESS experience than McCain. But hey, if McCain is so awesome, then why did he pick straight talkin' shoot wolves much less anything with fur Sarah Palin? Are all you republicans ready to have the possibility of her running the country? And as for ties to terrorists? Fuck that non-sense. Wasn't Obama like 4 years old or something when Ayers was a "terrorist?" Ayers is a highly respected scholar in Chicago. Besides, it's been proven that McCain has ties to him to, sending him almost a half million dollars. BLAH BLAH BLAH, it's not important now.

I'm just saying that there has been a lot of things said about both candidates that has just been unecessary to mention or something used for fear mongering on either side. This campaign has been the most ridiculous, over drawn and most expensive ever, and I can't wait for it be done in the next few hours and see what happens in the next 4 years.

And as for this whole "sheep" shit going around on this thread, stop it. There a sheep for both parties, obviously. But I will say that the "sheep" at Obama rallies don't yell things like "kill him" or other violent undertones, like the ones yelled at the McCain/Palin rallies. ("TERRORIST!" "KILL HIM!" You've all heard it.) And the worst part of it all, during all the times someone has yelled some obscene comment like that, neither Palin or McCain has stopped to say, "You know, that's just flat out fucking wrong to say." (Not that they would have to say "fucking.")

And I know that if I don't vote, I can't bitch, as the great George Carlin once said.

[1QUICK4]

Damnit man! Tell me about the Burritos!!!!1!!1

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE

And I know that if I don't vote, I can't bitch, as the great George Carlin once said.

That is correct; don't be like Tom.

[96GSXMN]

Originally Posted by Kracka

I don't think 96GSXMN was referring to just the financial status of the country though. I happen to agree with him as well.

Thank you I was not

[Shane@DBPerformance]

This is only the beginning of the economy taking a shit. We are just seeing some turtlehead poking out now. As more companies continue to do big layoffs, things could cascade farther and farther when the laid off stop buying anything and there is competition for even shit jobs. I think it's going to take a quite a while to recover regardless of who gets elected. We fucked ourselves by letting corrupt anti-American companies like Walmart force all of our manufacturing to countries like China, then sell it back to us and then people can only afford to shop at shitholes like Walmart. Maybe we will get lucky and things will get better soon, but it doesn't look good with so many companies closing and the big automakers doing horrible.

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

Originally Posted by ecoli

This is only the beginning of the economy taking a shit. We are just seeing some turtlehead poking out now. As more companies continue to do big layoffs, things could cascade farther and farther when the laid off stop buying anything and there is competition for even shit jobs. I think it'going to take a quite a while to recover regardless of who gets elected. We fucked ourselves by letting corrupt anti-American companies like Walmart force all of our manufacturing to countries like China, then sell it back to us and then people can only afford to shop at shitholes like Walmart. Maybe we will get lucky and things will get better soon, but it doesn't look good with so many companies closing and the big automakers doing horrible.

It's not just the fact of jobs being shipped over seas. Were in this mess because of all the banks and home lending places literally giving out mortgages to every mother fucker that couldn't afford them; note that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had over $5,000,000,000,000
worth of mortgages!!!

AND NOW WE THE TAX PAYERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT!!!

At least we'll get some kind of fucking stupid rebate down the road that we can all go out and buy lots of alcohol with.


Plus, even if the economy takes a dump, it's not just us that go down, the whole damn world gets sucked into the black hole with us. I know you've all noticed Europe has been bailing out banks left and right (not literally, but a number of countries have done this already) and every time the market here goes down 500 points, Japan's market tanks 5%. So at least were all in this together, one big happy world.

[Kracka]

Our market and its consumers demand and force companies to purchase/sell products manufactured overseas since we're always looking for the cheapest prices. We're ALL at fault for this. Low prices drive consumers and WalMart has enabled a lot of people to have things they could otherwise not afford; plus they've brought many jobs to small towns and employed people who are otherwise unemployable. With things looking increasingly worse for GM I'm a bit worried. If GM falls so will many other companies that supply to them. The blame for that is not on our economy but on our over-powerful unions and the poor decisions GM made regarding them back in the 70's when profits were strong.

[BLaCk_1cE]

I thought Kracka graciously bowed out ^Maybe this will give us a chance to start fresh with financial markets and a banking system that makes sense.

[BLaCk_1cE]

Whether or not it has already been established that I am not in support of either of the 2 main candidates, therefore have no bias, look at these McCain supporters haha. Didnt look at the other 2 vids, but yeah.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/469.html

As for the muslim comments, non-christian, jedi knight, et cetera - What ever happened to separation of church and state?

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

Originally Posted by BLaCk_1cE

As for the muslim comments, non-christian, jedi knight, et cetera - What ever happened to separation of church and state?

SHAZAMWAMBAM ABRAKADABRA!!!!!!

There is no such thing as separation church and state anymore!!! Everyone in this country is so god fearing that it will never happen. Remember Romney's political ads last year with crosses and shit in them?

I say if politicians want to run for office and say how great this country is blah blah blah and love how it was founded, then why not follow the separation of church and state. There's obviously a reason why our "founding fathers" put that in our constitution.

Jedi knight?!

[1QUICK4]

Made my ol' lady vote too. When we got done she told me the only part she filled out was yes on the clean water act

Now I'm going to sit back, pop an oxycodone (for my headache), pour a glass of scotch, light up a huge cigar and watch the drama unfold on TV.

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

Originally Posted by 1QUICK4

Now go get your free Chipotle burrito, Starbucks coffee, and discounts offered at various shopping locations.

Looks like voting helps boost the economy?

[1QUICK4]

Free Chipotle burrito?

Tell me more!

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Our founding fathers were not Christians. They were pretty radical too with the way they kinda overthrew the government.