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Old 08-06-2015   #1
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Re: Planned Parenthood

Enter the ruthless pragmatist.

What else are you going to do with an aborted fetus, other than maybe bury it? If you have an consenting would-be parent, and there is some medical purpose that would help a living human, more power to you.
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Old 08-06-2015   #2
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Enter the ruthless pragmatist.

What else are you going to do with an aborted fetus, other than maybe bury it? If you have an consenting would-be parent, and there is some medical purpose that would help a living human, more power to you.
And that is a good point, after the deed is done.

What about the fact they've been caught bargaining and selling human tissues for profit? Which IS highly illegal.

If profit is not the motive and medical research is, why not just say to the research companies, "here's bags of aborted babies, take all you want so we don't have to incur the high cost of disposal"? Think about that. Instead, what you have is PP creating a market for a product which they can supply as long as they keep pumping out abortions.

The fact is that PP even admits 91% of those so called "women's health services" related to pregnancy are abortions (from their own 2010 report).
http://issuu.com/actionfund/docs/ppf...994783/2039600

http://liveaction.org/blog/new-plann...ated-services/






But, there is a bigger picture. Planned Parenthood is a business. And with any business, revenue streams are a vital part of it.
Side note: This article also shows why Obamacare is bad for all of us because pharmaceutical companies can raise their pricing structure/profits, which you won't see outright, but insurance providers will be forced to pass the higher cost to you. And that's another subject for another time.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapoth...ke-less-money/
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And that is a good point, after the deed is done.

What about the fact they've been caught bargaining and selling human tissues for profit? Which IS highly illegal.

If profit is not the motive and medical research is, why not just say to the research companies, "here's bags of aborted babies, take all you want so we don't have to incur the high cost of disposal"? Think about that. Instead, what you have is PP creating a market for a product which they can supply as long as they keep pumping out abortions.

The fact is that PP even admits 91% of those so called "women's health services" related to pregnancy are abortions (from their own 2010 report).
http://issuu.com/actionfund/docs/ppf...994783/2039600

http://liveaction.org/blog/new-plann...ated-services/




Do you even read the sources you post? Abortions are 3% of Planned Parenthood services according to what you just posted in the actual PP report. http://issuu.com/actionfund/docs/ppf...994783/2039600

Why do you use words like "Highly Illegal"? You don't know what you're talking about. There are costs involved in organ donation and those can be recovered. An example would be that a person compensated for their time when donating blood plasma, but not for the actual blood plasma. Same concept with processing tissues and organs.

If what you believe is true, arrests will happen. There won't be any arrests over the matter because nothing illegal is happening. Just angry people using strong words that don't apply to any of it.
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Do you even read the sources you post? Abortions are 3% of Planned Parenthood services according to what you just posted in the actual PP report. http://issuu.com/actionfund/docs/ppf...994783/2039600

Why do you use words like "Highly Illegal"? You don't know what you're talking about. There are costs involved in organ donation and those can be recovered. An example would be that a person compensated for their time when donating blood plasma, but not for the actual blood plasma. Same concept with processing tissues and organs.

If what you believe is true, arrests will happen. There won't be any arrests over the matter because nothing illegal is happening. Just angry people using strong words that don't apply to any of it.
I guess "highly" implied its "more illegal" than it is "illegal", so sorry about that. This is not organ donation in the sense of a person giving up one of their kidneys or bone marrow. Last I checked giving plasma doesn't kill you to extract it for profit.



Yes I did read it. Who cares if its 3% of what they do, that 3% is a huge number of abortions, over 300,000 in just that year, so don't make it out like its only 3 babies aborted for profit.
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I guess "highly" implied its "more illegal" than it is "illegal", so sorry about that. This is not organ donation in the sense of a person giving up one of their kidneys or bone marrow. Last I checked giving plasma doesn't kill you to extract it for profit.
It all falls under the same laws. A person can't donate their heart until death. Someone will be paid for removing it. Money will legally transact for that heart.

I find the abortion and organ saving process and talk a bit disturbing myself. However, nothing being done is illegal. I personally would rather that a use is made out of the aborted fetus rather than just throwing it away.

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Yes I did read it. Who cares if its 3% of what they do, that 3% is a huge number of abortions, over 300,000 in just that year, so don't make it out like it only 3 babies aborted for profit.
Because it's important to state the facts. If it's a who cares issue and you read it, why make up stats? There were 10.7 million people served for non-abortion related issues. 3.7 million of those were for contraception - that's a lot of potential abortions being prevented.

It's fine to be against the process that's happening, but disliking it doesn't make it illegal.
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