Ted Cruz calls them out on the floor

[jeremy1375]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

See, there's the problem. You're more caught up in the "messenger" than what the message is. Did you watch all of it? I'll guess probably not.

What he's pointing to is the outright lies made by the Republican leader to get the Republican votes to fund the IN/EX Bank again. He's 100% right that we control both houses and yet it still looks like the Dems are in charge.

You are completely missing the point of why Trump's surging in the polls. Do you really think Trump is where he is today because he's "unprofessional and undiplomatic"? The man handles huge business deals with some of the most wealthy, privileged and influential people on the planet. And business is what makes this country work for everybody, not some left wing ideology.

I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt and watch the whole thing. I absolutely cringe at the outright hypocrisy of Cruz. He uses corporate cronyism as his excuse all the while he is MARRIED TO A MANAGING DIRECTOR OF GOLDMAN SACHS! His wife was a Vice President there during the crash and during their $10 BILLION BAILOUT.

He's part of what he's calling a problem. Who the fuck knows if the import/export bank is bad, I sure don't. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. I would bet though that getting rid of it would benefit Goldman Sachs.

You do realize that dems are still in control, right? Do you know why? It's because Obama can veto any bill that comes in front of him. If Congress truly want to pass a bill, they have to make sure it's one he'll sign. A veto override requires each chamber to vote again and 2/3rd's need to be in favor for it to pass.

[SlowWhite]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt and watch the whole thing. I absolutely cringe at the outright hypocrisy of Cruz. He uses corporate cronyism as his excuse all the while he is MARRIED TO A MANAGING DIRECTOR OF GOLDMAN SACHS! His wife was a Vice President there during the crash and during their $10 BILLION BAILOUT.

He's part of what he's calling a problem. Who the fuck knows if the import/export bank is bad, I sure don't. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. I would bet though that getting rid of it would benefit Goldman Sachs.

You do realize that dems are still in control, right? Do you know why? It's because Obama can veto any bill that comes in front of him. If Congress truly want to pass a bill, they have to make sure it's one he'll sign. A veto override requires each chamber to vote again and 2/3rd's need to be in favor for it to pass.

And that is why I cant stand "parties" people need to vote there conscience and not be tied down to what there party wants to do. Im sure some do vote that way. But I for sure dont trust the majority to do the right thing, but only to do what's in there own interest.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt and watch the whole thing. I absolutely cringe at the outright hypocrisy of Cruz. He uses corporate cronyism as his excuse all the while he is MARRIED TO A MANAGING DIRECTOR OF GOLDMAN SACHS! His wife was a Vice President there during the crash and during their $10 BILLION BAILOUT.

He's part of what he's calling a problem. Who the fuck knows if the import/export bank is bad, I sure don't. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. I would bet though that getting rid of it would benefit Goldman Sachs.

You do realize that dems are still in control, right? Do you know why? It's because Obama can veto any bill that comes in front of him. If Congress truly want to pass a bill, they have to make sure it's one he'll sign. A veto override requires each chamber to vote again and 2/3rd's need to be in favor for it to pass.

His wife doesn't work there anymore, she quit. Guess you didn't know that? Or that Cruz opposed the bailouts. Guess you didn't know that either? Even so, Cruz didn't write any checks for GS, that was Bush/Obamator. On top of that, Cruz wasn't even a senator until 2012, 2 years after the bailouts. So how does that make him a hypocrite? And I'm sure the only reason GS took the bail out was because Cruz's wife made them, right? She must have put a gun to the heads of the board of directors, right?

The IM/EX Bank has nothing to do with GS. It was used to subsidize big corporations (Boeing, etc.) with your tax dollars. It was also used to give other countries money that would be used to buy American made products. Just so you understand, your government gave your tax dollars to foreign countries to use to buy American made products, using your tax dollars. The IM/EX Bank was closed for a while and we survived without it just fine. Thanks to McConnel, it's being funded again.

There are ways to get a president to sign a bill he doesn't like, you call him out on it in the public eye, make him have to sign it. Or you keep pushing it back into both houses until it either passes or he decides to sign it. Obama is a want to be dictator,...

Still going after the messenger, regardless of the message. I guess in your eyes what McConnel did was OK.