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[jeremy1375]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

Not really, your posts are too stupid to waste my time on. Please try to simply address the subject at hand next time instead of trying to somehow tie an irrelevant situation from 50 years ago. These two things have nothing in common, hence my comment.

You should try taking a history class.

BTW, your posts are stupider, dick.

[Speedfreak]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."

This is the reasoning Judge Leon M. Bazile used to convict the Loving's in 1959 for an inter-racial marriage. Justifying it through religion. Same reasoning, different decade. History repeats.

His interpretation of religion. Interpretation of everything going on is subjective. The current situations are and were inevitable.

[jeremy1375]

Originally Posted by Speedfreak

His interpretation of religion. Interpretation of everything going on is subjective. The current situations are and were inevitable.

Agree on the subjective interpretation. Based on the Bible, I'm positive Jesus would be cool with inter-racial marriage as well as scold those who are dicks to lgbt's. The huge problem is people abusing religion by using it to justify their dislike/hatred of others.

[jeremy1375]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Geeez, are we living in the 1960's or something? Last time I checked it's 2015.

"Political Correctness" is destroying this country, AND YOU ARE WALKING, TALKING, LIVING PROOF OF IT.
In the real world, if you wanted a product (a big ol' cake for your gay wedding) you would just find a local baker who
a) doesn't give a shit personally either way about a guy wanting another guys dick in his ass and would be glad to offer his services
or
b) as demand for enough "dick in my ass cakes" grew, the market place would pick up on it and respond appropriately by having somebody invest their hard earned dollars into opening "Dick'n Da'Ass Bakery", "Where We Bake It So You Can Stake It".

Whick cake do you think would come out better, the one from the shop that was forced to bake it, or the shop that wanted to bake it?

No gay person will be going to the place that doesn't want their business regardless. It's the spirit of the law that is discriminatory. If Louisiana came up with a law that specifically allowed businesses to refuse customers based the religious belief that white heterosexual males are an abomination to God, are you telling me that it wouldn't bother you in the least?

You have the luxury of that never happening to you. As long as you aren't the subject of the discrimination, it's all petty bs, right?

[A//// Guy]

Arnie puts it well: http://www.washingtonpost.com/postev...r-republicans/

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Ask a muslim, scientologist, or morman how it feels?
There isnt an attack on Christianity silly, theres an attack on ALL religions. Its due to the fact that you are a christian that you seem to think people are attacking your religion. What do you think a muslim feels when you have idiot right wing Christians calling them all terrorists. What do you think a morman thinks when people constantly associate their religion with polygamy, or a scientologist thinks when someone makes fun of their origin story.

Originally Posted by A//// Guy

^Totally agree. People just see what they want to see though. Christians have the least worries when it comes down to judgement by others imo. Muslims probably have it the worst at this point in time.

I guess all those beheadings that are happening to Christians are just a fluke accident? I don't really see Muslims being beheaded for being Muslim.

Of all the other religions, name one that right now as we speak is beheading anybody of other faiths besides Muslim. The reason why all Muslims are all lumped into the terrorist catagory is because the silent majority of them who are good people are not speaking out against those that are killing in the name of Allah. SO, if Muslims have it the worst right now it's because they brought it upon themselves.

And for the "But what about the crusades?" crowd,
Answer: The crusades have provided some of the most frequent arguments against the Christian faith. Some Islamic terrorists even claim that their terrorist attacks are revenge for what Christians did in the crusades. So, what were the crusades and why are they viewed as such a big problem for the Christian faith?

First of all, the crusades should not be referred to as the “Christian crusades.” Most of the people involved in the crusades were not truly Christians, even though they claimed to be. The name of Christ was abused, misused, and blasphemed by the actions of many of the crusaders. Second, the crusades took place from approximately A.D. 1095 to 1230. Should the unbiblical actions of supposed Christians hundreds of years ago still be held against Christians today?

Third, not that this is an adequate excuse, but Christianity is not the only religion with a violent past. In actuality, the crusades were responses to Muslim invasions on what was once land occupied primarily by Christians. From approximately A.D. 200 to 900, the land of Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, and Turkey was inhabited primarily by Christians. Once Islam became powerful, Muslims invaded these lands and brutally oppressed, enslaved, deported, and even murdered the Christians living in those lands. In response, the Roman Catholic Church and “Christian” kings/emperors from Europe ordered the crusades to reclaim the land the Muslims had taken. The actions that many so-called Christians took in the crusades were still deplorable. There is no biblical justification for conquering lands, murdering civilians, and destroying cities in the name of Jesus Christ. At the same time, Islam is not a religion that can speak from a position of innocence in these matters.

To summarize briefly, the crusades were attempts in the 11th through 13th centuries A.D. to reclaim land in the Middle East that had been conquered by Muslims. The crusades were brutal and evil. Many people were forced to “convert” to Christianity. If they refused, they were put to death. The idea of conquering a land through war and violence in the name of Christ is completely unbiblical. Many of the actions that took place in the crusades were completely antithetical to everything the Christian faith stands for.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Christia...#ixzz3WGqfWVss

Answer: ORIGINS OF THE CRUSADES
After the death of Charlemagne, king of the Franks, in 814 and the subsequent collapse of his empire, Christian Europe was under attack and on the defensive. Magyars, nomadic people from Asia, pillaged eastern and central Europe until the 10th century. Beginning about 800, several centuries of Viking raids disrupted life in northern Europe and even threatened Mediterranean cities. But the greatest threat came from the forces of Islam, militant and victorious in the centuries following the death of their leader, Muhammad, in 632. By the 8th century, Islamic forces had conquered North Africa, the eastern shores of the Mediterranean, and most of Spain. Islamic armies established bases in Italy, greatly reduced the size and power of the Byzantine Empire (the Eastern Roman Empire) and besieged its capital, Constantinople. The Byzantine Empire, which had preserved much of the classical civilization of the Greeks and had defended the eastern Mediterranean from assaults from all sides, was barely able to hold off the enemy. Islam posed the threat of a rival culture and religion, which neither the Vikings nor the Magyars had done.
http://history-world.org/crusades.htm

[A//// Guy]

Im talking about in the US, not over in the middle east. smh. You cant talk about religion world based, when we are discussing laws being made in the US.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

No gay person will be going to the place that doesn't want their business regardless.

Bullshit. If that statement were true, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

It's the spirit of the law that is discriminatory. If Louisiana came up with a law that specifically allowed businesses to refuse customers based the religious belief that white heterosexual males are an abomination to God, are you telling me that it wouldn't bother you in the least?

I'd find it humerous and move on. They don't want my money, I can find somebody who does.

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

You have the luxury of that never happening to you. As long as you aren't the subject of the discrimination, it's all petty bs, right?

I see it happening all the time to "whitey". Where should we start? Government programs? Housing programs? Educational programs?
You see, I want rascism to go away, just like you. But drawing any lines based on race keeps it alive.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by A//// Guy

Im talking about in the US, not over in the middle east. smh. You cant talk about religion world based, when we are discussing laws being made in the US.

Why can't I? Hasn't stopped people in this forum before.

So it's ok for Christians and other non-Islamist to be KILLED in the most gruesome fashion and that doesn't matter as long as gay boy can get his wedding cake. And if he can't, threaten and bankrupt a baker.
Explain that logic to me, we're all waiting.

[tpunx99GSX]

Did you just defend the crusades? Lmao
And using the arguement that they were not truly Christians can be the same argument Muslims can make about Isis not being true followers of Islam.
I'll write more against your arguement once I get out of this meeting

[jeremy1375]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

I'd find it humerous and move on. They don't want my money, I can find somebody who does.

Really? What if you had only recently been allowed to marry as a heterosexual? What if your right to marry was still being challenged?

Could what you express as discrimination toward "whitey" be only feeling pissed about no longer being on the top of the food chain.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Did you just defend the crusades? Lmao
And using the arguement that they were not truly Christians can be the same argument Muslims can make about Isis not being true followers of Islam.
I'll write more against your arguement once I get out of this meeting

I didn't defend the crusades, I gave the history behind the crusades.

[A//// Guy]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Why can't I? Hasn't stopped people in this forum before.

So it's ok for Christians and other non-Muslims to be KILLED in the most gruesome fashion and that doesn't matter as long as gay boy can get his wedding cake. And if he can't, threaten and bankrupt a baker.
Explain that logic to me, we're all waiting.

Dude really? This is going the same way every other political thread goes, not sure why I chimed in.

Anyway, obviously no it is terrible a small group of terrorists are killing people who are non muslim, but they are also killing other muslims as well.

The original topic was about a law passed in this country, not sure why youd even bring this up, when it doesnt pertain to it. If people were getting killed here because they couldnt buy a cake from a christian bake sale that was shaped like a weiner, then that would make a bit more sense in your argument. I dont see that happening.

[tehehodi]

Hey guys,

Don't mind me, I just wanted to in.

[A//// Guy]

lmao, black people arent allowed to use fans in this forum.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

I guess all those beheadings that are happening to Christians are just a fluke accident? I don't really see Muslims being beheaded for being Muslim.

Of all the other religions, name one that right now as we speak is beheading anybody of other faiths besides Muslim. The reason why all Muslims are all lumped into the terrorist catagory is because the silent majority of them who are good people are not speaking out against those that are killing in the name of Allah. SO, if Muslims have it the worst right now it's because they brought it upon themselves.

We can talk to recent history regarding this. Hitler. Christian german trying to create the supreme race by ridding the world of jewish people.
The KKK ridding the world by hanging, burning and murdering people of any color other than white.
So would you say these sects of christianity really relate to your view of your religion?
No? Well then you cant do the same thing with Islam. (Muslim is not a religion) Many Muslims do not fall into the same extremist views as the ones making headlines. Just like most christians do not share the same views as wesboro baptist church.

[A//// Guy]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

I guess all those beheadings that are happening to Christians are just a fluke accident? I don't really see Muslims being beheaded for being Muslim.

Of all the other religions, name one that right now as we speak is beheading anybody of other faiths besides Muslim. The reason why all Muslims are all lumped into the terrorist catagory is because the silent majority of them who are good people are not speaking out against those that are killing in the name of Allah. SO, if Muslims have it the worst right now it's because they brought it upon themselves.

Also, ISIS is killing muslims, large quantities. You probably arent seeing this in the mainstream news.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...eath-toll.html

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

Really? What if you had only recently be allowed to marry as a heterosexual? What if your right to marry was still being challenged?

See, here's a major part of the problem.

Marriage as defined by, oh lets see, Oxford Univerisity (Oxford Dictionaries) is the union between a man and a woman.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us...glish/marriage

Here's another way to look at it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcs1K7Gi9Pg&hd=1

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

Could what you express as discrimination toward "whitey" be only feeling pissed about no longer being on the top of the food chain.

Are you kidding me? That's your question after I expressed that white people are being disciminated against?
SO, your white guilt makes you ok with being discrimanated against?
SO, you want a post racial society, well except for when it's against whitey?

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

The reason why all Muslims are all lumped into the terrorist catagory is because the silent majority of them who are good people are not speaking out against those that are killing in the name of Allah. SO, if Muslims have it the worst right now it's because they brought it upon themselves.

Many Muslims have spoken out about it, but are quickly drown out by the likes of fox news and their supporters making stupid accusations such as the one you just made.
I particularly detest the last thing you said above because it goes beyond what you said before that, "Its because they brought it upon themselves". Seems to be the republican stance on a lot of subjects lately. Blaming the victim... "That boy was beaten up because he was gay, well i guess he shouldnt have been gay and brought it on himself" "That girl was raped and got pregnant, Well she shouldnt have been dressing that way inviting rapists, she brought that upon her self when she wore those clothes."

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Are you kidding me? That's your question after I expressed that white people are being disciminated against?
SO, your white guilt makes you ok with being discrimanated against?
SO, you want a post racial society, well except for when it's against whitey?

I think his point wasn't white guilt, but more "EVERYBODY is discriminated against, so why not white people." Cry because its you, but its ok if you do it to someone else.