Possibly the most retarded anti-gun ad I've ever seen...

[jeremy1375]

Originally Posted by AwdGSX13

Automatic weapons are not "illegal", you just need a special permit to own. They do make it pretty time consuming and you really open yourself up to the government if you do get approved for a automatic weapons permit, but anyone can apply and deal with the bs.

Correct, the point I am trying to make is they are so tightly regulated and expensive now that vast majority of gun owners will never own one. Due to extreme regulations on them, it's extremely unlikely a child, irrational person, or even criminal will ever get their hands on one. They are effectively out of the hands of irresponsible/careless owners.

I certainly don't want to see "assault" weapons be made illegal. The problem I see is that they're inexpensive, and getting even cheaper. They are accessible to just about everyone. Most are accurate enough to hit a man sized target at 500 yards with the proper training. They are sensationalized in movies and video games and, with a full magazine, a person can fire off 30 rounds before a reload. I don't understand why background check requirement bills are receiving almost no conservative support?

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/iss.../vote_2013.php

[AwdGSX13]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

Correct, the point I am trying to make is they are so tightly regulated and expensive now that vast majority of gun owners will never own one. Due to extreme regulations on them, it's extremely unlikely a child, irrational person, or even criminal will ever get their hands on one. They are effectively out of the hands of irresponsible/careless owners.

I certainly don't want to see "assault" weapons be made illegal. The problem I see is that they're inexpensive, and getting even cheaper. They are accessible to just about everyone. Most are accurate enough to hit a man sized target at 500 yards with the proper training. They are sensationalized in movies and video games and, with a full magazine, a person can fire off 30 rounds before a reload. I don't understand why background check requirement bills are receiving almost no conservative support?

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/iss.../vote_2013.php

I can definitely agree that background checks need to be more detailed. Also I believe that anyone who is looking to buy a firearm should have to receive their firearm safety first. If you need it to hunt, then you should need it to buy as well.

The magazine issue is moot point, if you can't carry 30rd magazines then someone would just carry 10 / 10rd magazines. Sure they would have to reload more but with most weapons it can be done in a short amount of time.

I also think that even the sale of firearms from person to person should be regulated more. Because any Joe blow can go buy one from a buddy.

[jeremy1375]

Originally Posted by AwdGSX13

I can definitely agree that background checks need to be more detailed. Also I believe that anyone who is looking to buy a firearm should have to receive their firearm safety first. If you need it to hunt, then you should need it to buy as well.

The magazine issue is moot point, if you can't carry 30rd magazines then someone would just carry 10 / 10rd magazines. Sure they would have to reload more but with most weapons it can be done in a short amount of time.

I also think that even the sale of firearms from person to person should be regulated more. Because any Joe blow can go buy one from a buddy.

I thought the same as you about the magazine size when I first heard about it. I'm not necessarily pro-smaller magazine, but I found some merit in the idea after thinking about it.

The reason I think there is something to the idea is because of the adrenaline factor. I still get a bit of a rush when firing a gun. I have to imagine that a person who is on an insane shooting spree is going to have shitloads of adrenaline coursing through their veins. Adrenaline makes precision movements hard. Unless a person has prepared and has the movement of removing and inserting a magazine down by rote, I would bet they are going to fumble it and leave a possible opening for kill or capture.

Other than that, we're pretty much on the same page.