Tim's evo x - Page 2

**scheides** · 08-23-2012

FWIW I've been running the hose that came with my MAP kit for about a year and a half on e85, no problems. When I first installed it I thought I had kinked it (see my project thread) so I took it back out and rearranged it, no issues thus far, even after upgrading to a w400!

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Originally Posted by Kracka

That plastic straw hose stuff is junk IMO, I've seen a few instances of it breaking, get the rubber submersible fuel injection hose that is ethanol-safe. It should be around $15/foot...

The problem is that a straight hose gets kinked, I tried this. You have to get the 'S' shaped hose that comes in the cobb pump kit (or one like it) if you wanna run this type of hose.

**Murlo26** · 08-23-2012

Yea I'd ditch the clear stuff, I think MAP even says not e85 safe on their website.

I ran a DIY 225 install kit that I made for 6 months and like 10,000 miles and this is what it looked like, super gummy and discolored but still worked fine.

**Kracka** · 08-23-2012

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Originally Posted by scheides

The problem is that a straight hose gets kinked, I tried this. You have to get the 'S' shaped hose that comes in the cobb pump kit (or one like it) if you wanna run this type of hose.

Nope, I've been running straight hose for a year and a half, it's fine if routed properly. Cobb no longer uses the S hose.

http://www.cobbtuning.com/Walbro-255.../evoxfpkit.htm

timschot · 08-23-2012

Thanks guys!

I had read about the routing issue before I did mine and made sure it was routed down and back out with no kinks, etc. It was not a kink issue for sure. It is flared out where it broke as if the line was getting weaker or something was caught in it backing it up and it exploded.

I did talk to MAP, and they said the line is definitely used by a lot of guys for e85 and working fine as e85 is the main reason most people upgrade the pump / buy that kit anyway. But... read on.

I replaced the clear line with Gates 27093 ($28 for a foot of it at NAPA, they had it in stock at the distribution center one in St Louis Park). It is tricky to route such that it won't be kinked once the bucket's bolted into the tank, but definitely doable. After that, car started right up and ran good... for about 19 miles of a 21 mile drive home.

It died again, clearly losing fuel. Still had tools/etc in the car of course, didn't even put the back seat back in, so I pull the bucket out again, turns out the DW300 died. Luckily I still had a DW65c at home in the stock hanger assembly, so my wife brought it to me and I swapped it in.

Sounds like the 300s have a bit of a reputation for dying, then sometimes working 20 minutes later, then dying again. Probably a combination of the stop and go traffic, hardwire, and inadequate return line system... so that's the end of the 300.

timschot · 08-23-2012

I would be more annoyed, but I was leaning toward a w400 and having to do an afpr or mod the return line at a minimum anyway. It sounds like MAP is working out some bugs on a new setup that I might be interested in though so I'll try to hold off doing too much for now.

cudvig · 08-23-2012

Did me and Ross help you push start your car at sears one night?

-Colin

**Kracka** · 08-23-2012

timschot · 08-23-2012

Yep. Thanks again. That was from the previous owner disconnecting the clutch switch and putting a jumper on the wire to it.. jumper worked its way out. Found the jumper on the floor later and wanted to kick myself. Plug clutch switch in, starts.

timschot · 08-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Kracka

No we're good

I don't mind hiccups like this... bit of a pain in the ass, but oh well, learn something new maybe. It's working w/ the 65c for now, and I'm just going to be taking it easy for another 2 weeks anyway until we're ready to do the turbo/motor. Really curious to see if there's something else that caused the pump to go though.

**goodhart** · 08-23-2012

What turbo/motor are you going with?

timschot · 08-23-2012

Turbo... MAP EF3. I originally thought about putting one on the stock bottom, but I would rather just build it at the same time and get what I can out of the turbo without puckering my cheeks every time I get on it. If I were going stroke/bore I probably would've gone EF4, but for stock displacement, I would rather have the relatively quick spool of the EF3 with pretty good top end potential.

Motor...
MAP ultimate duty rods w/ ARP bolts
Wiseco HD pistons -4.5cc 9:1
ACL main and rod bearings
ARP head studs
Stock crank, stock sleeves, stock bore, just honing. Stock head, valvesprings, and cams for now. Will likely do cams and valvesprings over winter.

Ron will be building and installing it. For what he quoted, it is really hard to say no and do it myself.

It is also getting shep diff pins while we're in there.

I am hoping I can swing a twin disc too, but I will be pushing it. Trying to find a deal there. The comp 3 does not seem to like 5500 2step launching.

simulatedwood · 08-23-2012

If you can swing it, id recommend doing the twin disk at the same time since your tearing apart the transmission anyway. I give it a 2 thumbs up and a smart upgrade. I we ever meet up I will let you drive it to see if it is your cup of tea.

Shawn

timschot · 08-23-2012

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Originally Posted by simulatedwood

If you can swing it, id recommend doing the twin disk at the same time since your tearing apart the transmission anyway. I give it a 2 thumbs up and a smart upgrade. I we ever meet up I will let you drive it to see if it is your cup of tea.

Shawn

Good to hear. It absolutely makes sense to do it at the same time too, it is no more work to do a new clutch than to put the old one back in when the motor and trans are coming out anyway. Just hoping I can make it happen without breaking the bank. That would be really cool. Are you going to the mitsu cookout?

**Kracka** · 08-23-2012

Shawn's clutch drives really smooth.

simulatedwood · 08-23-2012

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Originally Posted by timschot

Good to hear. It absolutely makes sense to do it at the same time too, it is no more work to do a new clutch than to put the old one back in when the motor and trans are coming out anyway. Just hoping I can make it happen without breaking the bank. That would be really cool. Are you going to the mitsu cookout?

No cookout this year for me sadly, it is the first year I am missing. I have a conflict with a chumpcar 24 hour race @ iowa speedway. One of these days I will make it to a Wednesday sonic meet, Spaz and Josh both tell me that's the place to hang your wang out.

Shawn

timschot · 08-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Kracka

Shawn's clutch drives really smooth.

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Originally Posted by simulatedwood

No cookout this year for me sadly, it is the first year I am missing. I have a conflict with a chumpcar 24 hour race @ iowa speedway. One of these days I will make it to a Wednesday sonic meet, Spaz and Josh both tell me that's the place to hang your wang out.

Shawn

No that's cool. I have been to Sonic once is all. Will try to go a couple more times though probably.

Talked to my parts hookup buddy

I am getting an exedy hd twin. I will just take everyone's word for it. Ron says he always uses exedy and other than improper install issues I'm reading about, they seem like the way to go.

My wallet is

but otherwise I'm

**goodhart** · 08-23-2012

Exedy twins rock!

timschot · 08-24-2012

I hope so!

Diff pins and openport 2.0 showed up today. Going to be at the Amery AutoX tomorrow and hoping the DW65c holds up! Going to be logging and watching AFRs like a hawk.

Tim

**Murlo26** · 08-24-2012

Looks to be progressing very nicely!

turbotalon1g · 08-24-2012

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Originally Posted by goodhart

Exedy twins rock!

how do they feel? Aren't they pretty light in traffic?