04-15-2012
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: GSXTACY
Nice.
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04-18-2012
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#2
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Duluth
Drives: Turbo LSx FC RX-7
Posts: 147
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Re: GSXTACY
I'm 99% sure I lifted the head in the car (or the HG was bad when I bought it).
What are everyone's thoughts on replacement?
I have a few options:
1: re-use standard ARP head studs, get new Felpro/Cometic 87mm head gasket, resurface head, call it a day
Pros: cheap, will probably handle the power fine
Cons: there is still risk of head gasket failure due to lifted head
2: new ARP L19 head studs, new Felpro/Cometic 87mm head gasket, resurface head, call it a day
Pros: this setup will probably never have issues
Cons: expensive, but less expensive than option 3
3: new MAP H11 head studs, new Felpro/Cometic 87mm head gasket, resurface head, call it a day
Pros: probably indestructible
Cons: easily the most expensive route
So, what would you guys do if you were me? I don't plan on ever running more than 25PSI (and I know some people say that, but I mean it)!
Also, what should I do for a head gasket? I've heard good things about the Cometic Phuzion, but it's expensive.
Last edited by DavidPHumes; 04-18-2012 at 10:29 AM..
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04-18-2012
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
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Re: GSXTACY
A1's/L19's, and fel pro permatorque.
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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04-18-2012
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#4
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Prior Lake
Drives: Icarus
Posts: 1,375
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Re: GSXTACY
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Originally Posted by goodhart
A1's/L19's, and fel pro permatorque.
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This.
I've never pushed coolant on this setup... which is more than I can say for a lot of other combos I've tried.
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04-18-2012
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N17r0U$ br4D
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Re: GSXTACY
L19's and a felpro permatorque. Done and done
I starting lifting the head at 480 on DB's dyno, went to L19's and a permatorque and never had a problem with more power.
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04-18-2012
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#6
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Duluth
Drives: Turbo LSx FC RX-7
Posts: 147
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Re: GSXTACY
Ordered L19s, PermaTorue, Magnus heat barrier intake manifold gasket & Mr. Gasket exhaust manifold gasket.
Goodbye $500.
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04-20-2012
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#7
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At-Least-It's-White-Again
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Re: GSXTACY
This car is still around? Wow.
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Done fuckin' with cars but I will snap some photos of yours for now! =)
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04-20-2012
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#8
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aka Goodbye
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Re: GSXTACY
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Originally Posted by At-Least-It's-An-Evo
This car is still around? Wow.
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Yeah, it's been sitting in Bryan's garage for a while, he got a Mercedes and doesn't want to mess with these things anymore, I kinda envy him. 
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04-22-2012
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#9
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Duluth
Drives: Turbo LSx FC RX-7
Posts: 147
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Re: GSXTACY
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Originally Posted by Goat Blower
Yeah, it's been sitting in Bryan's garage for a while, he got a Mercedes and doesn't want to mess with these things anymore, I kinda envy him. 
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Text him and see what his next project might be 
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04-28-2012
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#10
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Duluth
Drives: Turbo LSx FC RX-7
Posts: 147
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Re: GSXTACY
I had fun today guys. It was nice meeting a few of you and supporting a good cause.
Dyno numbers are so-so. It's pig rich and on stock timing. I need someone who really knows what they're doing to get her cleaned up. It runs good though and I'm real happy with it.
We left Duluth this morning at 6AM (meaning I had to get up at 4:15AM!) with a really cool group and a LOT of fast cars.
Anyway, the dyno was fun and a first for me. Here are the results:
Can you see a difference between run 1 and then runs 2 and 3? Jordan worked a little 10 second tuning magic there, lol.
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04-29-2012
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#11
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flips McGee
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Re: GSXTACY
What do you mean by 'stock timing' ?
Timing should come up to the 5-8 area when boost builds and then climb to the mid-high-ish teens at redline. AFR should be in the mid 11's everywhere under boost. Also, you're on e85 and you have a freaking hta82 wheel on that thing, turn the boost UP!
Do a boost leak test, sort out little issues as you have been but don't beat on it much until you invest in an a tune with an experienced pro...we have several locally!
This turbo should make 575whp on that dyno without changing too much, so you have a lot too gain 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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04-30-2012
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#12
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: GSXTACY
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Originally Posted by scheides
What do you mean by 'stock timing' ?
Timing should come up to the 5-8 area when boost builds and then climb to the mid-high-ish teens at redline. AFR should be in the mid 11's everywhere under boost. Also, you're on e85 and you have a freaking hta82 wheel on that thing, turn the boost UP!
Do a boost leak test, sort out little issues as you have been but don't beat on it much until you invest in an a tune with an experienced pro...we have several locally!
This turbo should make 575whp on that dyno without changing too much, so you have a lot too gain 
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Can't he just have the car where he wants? so what if it has potential for 700+ on that dyno, it runs good now and there isn't much he will run into that he can't beat and if does well he has a sick 7 that will be as fast as the fastest guys on here if not faster.
Nice car, sorry I didn't get to meet you on sat.
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04-30-2012
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#13
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Duluth
Drives: Turbo LSx FC RX-7
Posts: 147
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Re: GSXTACY
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Originally Posted by evotuner
werent you the first one to dyno that day?
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Second... I started bidding on the first spot and then a baller jumped in and bid $500! LOL.
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
You should sell me that turbo!
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No thanks
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
Can't he just have the car where he wants? so what if it has potential for 700+ on that dyno, it runs good now and there isn't much he will run into that he can't beat and if does well he has a sick 7 that will be as fast as the fastest guys on here if not faster.
Nice car, sorry I didn't get to meet you on sat.
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Yup, exactly. I'm happy with how it drives now. Other than getting the tuned cleaned up I'm staying right at 25lbs. It also lessens the probability of me breaking stuff, although I know it's inevitable.
It would have been nice to meet you as well. It's always weird going to car meets because none of us know what each other look like, lol.
BTW I just got done replacing the driver's side front inner CV boot... that wasn't very much fun at all but at least I caught it early. Knock on wood the bearings are good.
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04-30-2012
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#14
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flips McGee
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Re: GSXTACY
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
Can't he just have the car where he wants? so what if it has potential for 700+ on that dyno, it runs good now and there isn't much he will run into that he can't beat...
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Holy crap who are you and what have you done with Aaron?
DH, no harm in that man, it is just extra conservative! Definitely get it tuned though, too little timing and too rich AFR can be a bad thing too.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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04-29-2012
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#15
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: stillwater
Drives: cbr 1000rr repsol
Posts: 1,451
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Re: GSXTACY
Looks like you need to visit shane for a tune. Doesnt maps wideband read richer? I thought I heard that from someone. But anyways congrats on making done from duluth and back with no problems. Cant wait to see new numbers.
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04-29-2012
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#16
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: lino lakes
Drives: 98 GSX, 04 is300
Posts: 1,856
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Re: GSXTACY
Nice meeting and chatting with you before your car went on the dyno.
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04-29-2012
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#17
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Duluth
Drives: Turbo LSx FC RX-7
Posts: 147
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Re: GSXTACY
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Originally Posted by scheides
What do you mean by 'stock timing' ?
Timing should come up to the 5-8 area when boost builds and then climb to the mid-high-ish teens at redline. AFR should be in the mid 11's everywhere under boost. Also, you're on e85 and you have a freaking hta82 wheel on that thing, turn the boost UP!
Do a boost leak test, sort out little issues as you have been but don't beat on it much until you invest in an a tune with an experienced pro...we have several locally!
This turbo should make 575whp on that dyno without changing too much, so you have a lot too gain 
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I mean... we didn't add any timing. The base line in ECM Link is "untouched". I had Jordan log the run and my AFRs were actually 11-11.5 as read by my AEM wideband.
Sorry but I'm not upping the boost... it's a DD man! It's super fun as is and once the tune is finished I'll be happy. IDC was right at 80% on that run anyway.
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Originally Posted by 93gtpeater
Looks like you need to visit shane for a tune. Doesnt maps wideband read richer? I thought I heard that from someone. But anyways congrats on making done from duluth and back with no problems. Cant wait to see new numbers.
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Yea I'll probably have him clean it up (I had an appt last Tuesday actually but had to cancel as I thought I lifted the head). It must, as mentioned below my AEM was logging 11-11.5AFR (it got richer up top though).
And thanks, it was cool to drive it there, drive it back and surprise a lot of people. Since I don't have any cam lope and it's quiet people don't expect it
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Originally Posted by GsXtUrBo98
Nice meeting and chatting with you before your car went on the dyno.
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It was good meeting you as well. I hope to make some more "meets" when possible.
Last edited by DavidPHumes; 04-29-2012 at 11:03 AM..
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04-30-2012
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#18
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flips McGee
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Re: GSXTACY
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Originally Posted by DavidPHumes
Sorry but I'm not upping the boost... it's a DD man! It's super fun as is and once the tune is finished I'll be happy. IDC was right at 80% on that run anyway.
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LOL, you got some good headroom at 80%...lots of us run 30+psi with E85 on our DD's. 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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04-30-2012
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#19
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Duluth
Drives: Turbo LSx FC RX-7
Posts: 147
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Re: GSXTACY
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Originally Posted by scheides
LOL, you got some good headroom at 80%...lots of us run 30+psi with E85 on our DD's. 
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I have what will be a 750RWHP fun car for the weekends and nice summer days... I don't need two. I know the setup is capable of much more but that doesn't mean I need to run it at the max.
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04-30-2012
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#20
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mankato
Drives: 2004 Evo 8
Posts: 1,152
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Re: GSXTACY
werent you the first one to dyno that day?
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