View Poll Results: Where do I go from here? (now that all of the children have grown up...)
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Build the X
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No one wants a $60k evo with high monthly payments, get out now and buy a 9.
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07-21-2010
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#761
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hutch
Drives: Evo VIII and 96' Buick Park Ave
Posts: 2,595
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Murlo26;
I will never hear the end of this in PM's. Your tuner can't tune...we make more power on pump than you do on E85...blah blah blah. sigh.
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Tell him to eat shit then, why talk to him about stuff like that when they're obviously oblivious to what should happen in a tune, and that people don't fall for their stupid numbers.
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07-21-2010
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#762
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by mlomker
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Plenty of people are running high boost on pump gas, yes 92 or 93 not E85
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07-21-2010
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#763
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I question more the amount of timing they can put in. I showed Shane the timing they say they are running and he says he has trouble running the amount they do on pump gas.
I think it is some local New York war between tuners and now all the new york people think "their" tuner is better and the local tuners there have just inflated their shit beyond reasonable, like the florida dynos.
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07-21-2010
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#764
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
Posts: 2,430
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
Plenty of people are running high boost on pump gas, yes 92 or 93 not E85
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Feel free to show me some sheets, then. I haven't seen any legit Evo tuners do it.
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07-21-2010
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#765
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by mlomker
Feel free to show me some sheets, then. I haven't seen any legit Evo tuners do it.
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Buschur does it all the time. I can't say I recommend it, but yea. I ran 28 on my BBK setup pretty reliably though. If the setup/turbo can handle it, and you feel like pushing it, go for it. But yea, who knows.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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07-21-2010
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#766
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by mlomker
Feel free to show me some sheets, then. I haven't seen any legit Evo tuners do it.
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Feel free to search sites other than EVO X bullshit. Turbo cars have been around for a while and so has the tuning.
*Edit* the almighty scheides has spoken, maybe u will realize the troof now!!
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07-21-2010
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#767
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
Posts: 2,430
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by scheides
Buschur does it all the time. I can't say I recommend it
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Buschur has more than their share of blown motors from pushing their luck. Sometimes they blow shit up just to find the limits. That's their prerogative given that they build engines for profit.
Your second sentence is what's relevant to me. Would GST, AMS, or Shane run 30psi on pump?
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07-21-2010
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#768
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I don't think we never said you couldn't but as most good tuners even say in the espec threads...why you running 30psi, it only takes one bad tank of gas and kablamo!
No thanks, no good tuner would run that high of boost on any 93 oct.
Regardless, even if they did, they would have to keep the timing low to compensate so I don't think anymore power would be made.
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07-21-2010
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#769
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hutch
Drives: Evo VIII and 96' Buick Park Ave
Posts: 2,595
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Keep in mind everyone, some places have WAY better pump gas then the piss that MN gets.
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07-22-2010
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#770
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Heaven
Drives: 94 Plymouth Acclaim/2008 EvoX
Posts: 2,430
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by 311evo
Keep in mind everyone, some places have WAY better pump gas then the piss that MN gets.
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These guys are in NY and they do seem to be blessed in that regard.
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07-22-2010
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#771
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by mlomker
These guys are in NY and they do seem to be blessed in that regard.
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And I have said that before...but they think I am crazy.
Regardless, that kind of tuning is still very much on the edge of safe...
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07-22-2010
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#772
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
So I was a lil upset my turbo got held up, but it still isn't needed yet, so not an issue yet.
I just got these two emails from Robert, second one was funny I thought!
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Turbos are done and sitting there waiting on the line R&D to wrap up. Might have that handled by tomorrow, we are working on it.
2nd:
I have been "hitching" rides to work for the last 2 days, and been unable to goto lunch becuase my EVOX is apart for oil feed line development Send me a cheeseburger!
So good news, I am sure they are working fast since his personal X is down because of it!
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07-22-2010
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#773
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
LOL that's funny
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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07-22-2010
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#774
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I thought so, I lol'd.
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07-23-2010
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#775
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Initial Black numbers from the 3rd tester...
Here is what they posted:
Initial update,,,
17psi with 93pump--- 382hp..... this is going to be fun.
Got too late to continue on... A fresh set of plugs and back to the dyno we go!!
Spool-up was better than I anticipated,,, I think we touched 17psi @ 3800 or so,,, I'll post a log shortly.
First thing I noticed was having to add additional fuel from the previous FpRed tune to keep afr's identical,, a very good sign of things to come.
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07-23-2010
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#776
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Are you going to be at DB this afternoon at all? Let's pull the end of that one rod off the crank :P
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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07-23-2010
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#777
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by scheides
Are you going to be at DB this afternoon at all? Let's pull the end of that one rod off the crank :P
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I am, but I can't stay long...I was going to take a long lunch...I need to stop by MAP quick and grab the rod bearings then I have those, my new SSP MC (want my old one ) and the SSP relay pack to drop off.
I will probably take an hour and a half for lunch or so around 1:30. What time you guys going there?
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07-23-2010
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#778
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
Posts: 4,892
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
First thing I noticed was having to add additional fuel from the previous FpRed tune to keep afr's identical,, a very good sign of things to come.
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If the car still has a MAF, there is no reason they should have had to add fuel, unless they fixed something else or the old tune was screwed up. The MAF will compensate for a more airflow like a bigger turbo. You can usually put cams into an Evo and the A/Fs will be pretty much exactly the same even if it gains 40whp.
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07-23-2010
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#779
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Hmmm, true that. I am pretty sure it is still on the stock ECU. Perhaps they did a 3.5" intake though in anticipation of the MAF maxing.
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07-23-2010
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#780
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Danny was kind enough to check the bearing on the rod that snapped, it was all good...so it was not an oiling issue at all. Just power, it happens. Makes me feel good though, so mystery solved.
Stopped up at DB (obviously, since the above statement)...dropped off the new cosworth rod bearings (now DB can start putting in the new rods/pistons and get the show on the road) my new SSP master cylinder rev 2 and the SSP relay pack which replaces a bunch of relays that can possibly fail.
They changed around some stuff and have a new engine building room where the office used to be, its nice. I got to see the new AMS spec JE pistons too...Scheides/Kracka/Spaz were all there too by the way for Kracka's tune...Scheides suggest i take some pics of the pistons so here you go...
Nothing too crazy, but I love to see new stuff
My head is basically done, they had to get a few new shim buckets so they are still waiting on that, shouldn't be too much longer. The tune on the 6th of August is optimistic, but you never know, we will see what happens next week, should be lots of progress hopefully.
Hmmm, think thats about it for updates.
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