Why we love Ted Nugent - Page 2

2zzgtte · 04-16-2010

I just heard a quote from Obama saying "I probably will never shoot a bear." I instantly thought about this thread! haha! I'm still laughing!

tpunx99GSX · 04-16-2010

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See Tom, you and your way of thinking are what's wrong in America. We have the right to bare arms for sport, self defense of ourselves and our property, hunting, etc. Every natrual born citizen in this country is guaranteed that. But with that right comes the requirement and expectation of being a law abiding citizen. Unfortunately, you can't tell who will become a felon or criminal until they break the law (unless they are a brainwashed Muslim extremist). But since this country has turned into a "nanny" state, it's fair to punish the law abiding citizen while the criminal is breaks the law. Maybe we should outlaw box cutters, aerosol sprays, plastic knives, etc while we're at it.

Bottom line, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

This is really contradicting. If its a Right, then no matter if you are a criminal or not you are allowed the right to own a gun. What you are explaining in the above statement is a Privilege. Privileges like driving can be taken away by the state.
In your thought process Freedom of Speech, the right to pursue happiness, freedom of the press are all rights that can be taken away if you commit a crime.
We can go back and forth on this whole thing. And while you may think my thinking is whats wrong with this country, i believe just the opposite. I believe that if people want to own a gun, a thorough background check, and a MENTAL exam should be a requirement. (which would unfortunately rule out a lot of those retarded tea party members, and most of the south... LOL)

Really, I dont give a flying fuck whether I am able to own a gun or not. Its not something I'm going to cry about, as if there are less guns on the street or in the cities, there is less of a chance of myself or my family getting robbed/murdered by a very dangerous weapon. And while yes "guns dont kill people, People kill people" The gun is a very effective tool at doing so, Ive also never heard of a gun growing legs and running after people shooting innocent citizens, There is always a person standing behind it.
This discussion is just stupid and will never end.

mdost03 · 04-16-2010

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Really, I dont give a flying fuck whether I am able to own a gun or not. Its not something I'm going to cry about, as if there are less guns on the street or in the cities, there is less of a chance of myself or my family getting robbed/murdered by a very dangerous weapon.

A ban on guns will not make it so there are no guns on the street. Like what was posted before, a ban on guns would only affect the good citizens who follow the rules and will not allow them to protect themselves and family in certain situations. If you want a gun bad enough, you will ALWAYS be able to get one, legally or not.

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And while yes "guns dont kill people, People kill people" The gun is a very effective tool at doing so, Ive also never heard of a gun growing legs and running after people shooting innocent citizens, There is always a person standing behind it.

So is a knife, baseball bat, sledgehammer, chainsaw, car, etc.

Maybe we should ban everything that can be used as a weapon.

Matt D. · 04-16-2010

Tom is a carebear political follower, such discussions like this will go nowhere with people like him involved.

**Goat Blower** · 04-16-2010

Agreed.

**1ViciousGSX** · 04-16-2010

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Originally Posted by totaleclipse_05

Maybe we should ban everything that can be used as a weapon.

Maybe we should just ban Tom!!

95talonracer · 04-16-2010

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This is really contradicting. If its a Right...

GTFO!!

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Maybe we should just ban Tom!!

Done

95talonracer · 04-16-2010

**1ViciousGSX** · 04-16-2010

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Originally Posted by 95talonracer

GTFO!!

Done

**Halon** · 04-16-2010

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Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Yes you are confused and yes I still don't think we should let extremist Muslims in our military while we are fighting a war with extremist Muslims.

You were on the bandwagon of saying to disallow Muslims in the military, based on the actions of the extremists. Pot meet kettle.

**1ViciousGSX** · 04-16-2010

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You were on the bandwagon of saying to disallow Muslims in the military, based on the actions of the extremists. Pot meet kettle.

Still on that band wagon, don't plan on getting off it either. Expecting Muslims to go and fight a "holy" war against other Muslims and not have conflicts of interest gets you what happened at that military base. Doesn't even compare to the subject at hand.

2zzgtte · 04-16-2010

Haaha so sweet! The sweet "sounds" of liberal silence!

CarPsyco84 · 04-17-2010

Why is there even an argument about if we allow non felons to have guns, the constitution says we have to let felons too. Once you commit a crime (specially a felony) you waive that right, and this is not news, its been this way for a long time. I agree that putting all these restrictions on buying guns only hurts the rest of us that follow the rules, especially when the restriction is only in a specific city... Bad guy can't buy guns in DC... huh, guess he will have to drive a lil bit farther.

CarPsyco84 · 04-17-2010

Oh, and how is Vicious a band wagon jumper by suggesting that we not allow the enemy to join our ranks and then turn on us once we've accepted them? Sounds like a good idea to me. Pretty sure having to let all these questionable people in to the military is an american idea. Probably a no-brainer anywhere else.

**Halon** · 04-17-2010

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Still on that band wagon, don't plan on getting off it either. Expecting Muslims to go and fight a "holy" war against other Muslims and not have conflicts of interest gets you what happened at that military base. Doesn't even compare to the subject at hand.

What I'm saying is simple. You're words completely contradict themselves. That's all, just pointing it out.

**Halon** · 04-17-2010

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Originally Posted by CarPsyco84

Oh, and how is Vicious a band wagon jumper by suggesting that we not allow the enemy to join our ranks and then turn on us once we've accepted them? Sounds like a good idea to me. Pretty sure having to let all these questionable people in to the military is an american idea. Probably a no-brainer anywhere else.

I'm not saying don't allow the enemy to join the military, nor am I saying don't allow those with bad backrounds join the military. What I'm saying, is to completely disallow an entire culture, simply based off religion/skin color/etc is something i don't agree with.

But I'm not getting into that arguement here. What I'm saying is Mr. Viscous was one of the ones who was all about punishing that entire culture by not allowing them into the military, based on the actions of "the bad ones". Then he is on here contradicting himself, saying that we need to stop punishing others based on the actions of the bad ones.

The end,
Halon Out!!