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Old 09-14-2009   #1
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1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

The new project begins.

I haven't posted much on this forum before, but here's to some new beginnings.

So a bit on the background before we head straight into everything:

Bought the car last Friday (9-11-09) from a guy who's on the forum.

There's quite some done to it right now, and the engine upgrades aren't going to go too much further other than internal work and machining.

And now I'll get one with it:

ACT 2600 clutch with street disc
255 LPH fuel pump
Small 16G
550s
Greddy Type S
3" exhaust
2G MAF
DSMLink
KYB GR2 struts
Lowering springs (don't know brand)
New tie rod ends
New front brakes
New front axles
Redline fluid in transmission
solid shifter bushings
emissions removed
2G injector clips
new coolant hoses
2G TB elbow
new plug wires
Auto Meter Phantom boost gauge

There's an FMIC kit that he tossed in as well that needs to be put in. Going to wait on that until I actually get some time to do it.

I'll be picking up a wideband soon enough to get some tuning on it and get some more potential horsepower.

I'll post some pictures up later of the body and the engine (512 MB RAM, 1.2 GHz Pent. 3. FAIL)

The goals I have for it, not shooting for a horsepower goal or a 1/4 goal, just shooting for a good build that I'm happy with.

Engine:
Forged pistons
P&P head
1MM valves
Dual springs
Titanium retainers
Cams (though not sure on what I'd like to go with 264/264 maybe?)
Lightweight pulleys
Wire tuck

Drivetrain:
Lighter flywheel (any recommendations?)
4 bolt rear end
Shep/TRE rebuild kit with taller 5th

Brakes:
Slotted rotors front and rear
3/S calipers

Body (here's where the money comes in):
Paint job to stock
Rust taken care of (not too much actually)
Rear wing clips
Passenger side fender
Front bumper

So, that's the basis of the build.
Not too much engine work to be done at all. Sticking with the small 16G, though I might later on upgrade to a Big 16G, but depending on the lag, an EVO 3 16G might take the B16G's place.
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Old 09-14-2009   #2
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Re: 1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

Sounds like you have a very good car to start with and have a lot of plans for it. Good luck with it and have fun!
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Old 09-14-2009   #3
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Re: 1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

So far so good. It's nice to have something that can move down the highway and the backroads really well in comparison, to, well I'll just say it; Geo Metro. Yeah, fail of epic proportions.

Those are the complete plans for it (yeah, right). Oh, quick question, where's the sign-up for the DB meet in October?
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Re: 1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

Sounds kinda like my car minus link and plus cams. I have hks 264's, and like them quite a bit.
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Re: 1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

Evo 3 turbo all the way!
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Re: 1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

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Sounds kinda like my car minus link and plus cams. I have hks 264's, and like them quite a bit.
What's the lift on those and how's the idle?

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Evo 3 turbo all the way!
I know it's different for every engine, but you wouldn't happen to know what that starts spooling at?

I think before I go with a bigger turbo and more boost I'm going to make sure the bottom end can handle it.
I was told that the engine's pushing, if not slightly exceeding, 300 HP, but that's off of DSMLink and the previous owner telling me and I don't know how reliable Link is at dyno-ing the engine.
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Re: 1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

There is no need to build the engine just keep it stock they can hold a ton of power. Ask C3L1CA about it he is making a ton of power on a stock bottom end.

Get a set of hks cams look into 2722's. You can run them on the stock valve springs also

For a flywheel act work great

For a tranny get a basic rebuild with a 4spider diff and you will be ready to go.
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Re: 1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

There is no need to build the engine just keep it stock they can hold a ton of power. Ask C3L1CA about it he is making a ton of power on a stock bottom end.

Get a set of hks cams look into 2722's. You can run them on the stock valve springs also

For a flywheel act work great

For a tranny get a basic rebuild with a 4spider diff and you will be ready to go.
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Re: 1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

i have hks 272's for sale!!! $300
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Old 09-16-2009   #10
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i have hks 272's for sale!!! $300
I might be getting back to you on that. Gotta take all the bills 'n' shit into account. Damn college being so expensive.
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Old 09-22-2009   #11
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Re: 1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

Nabbed some pictures of the Talon a week or so ago. Have yet to get a good one of the engine. Might pop off the hood to get some better shots. The engine and the bay aren't nearly as clean as the last Eclipse that I had, this one still has yet to be taken care of by me.





Figured this would be a good shot courtesy of Plymouth PD.





Tires, wideband, and manifold should be ordered this Friday.
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Re: 1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

Looks good!! I like 1gas quite a bit, never owned one myself, but that's my favorite color combo.
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do know some one that works for plymouth.
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looks nice!
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do know some one that works for plymouth.
Wait...what?
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Re: 1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

I've got the head with the springs, retainers and 1mm over valves for sale. I can put some cams in there too if you'd like.
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What's the lift on those and how's the idle?



I know it's different for every engine, but you wouldn't happen to know what that starts spooling at?

I think before I go with a bigger turbo and more boost I'm going to make sure the bottom end can handle it.
I was told that the engine's pushing, if not slightly exceeding, 300 HP, but that's off of DSMLink and the previous owner telling me and I don't know how reliable Link is at dyno-ing the engine.
stock bottom end 4g63 are pretty solid. As for the turbo, it realllllly depends on the Tune but my evo 3 turbo spools right under the 3k rpm, maybe even sooner (2,700rpms) with a couple more refined tuning. DSMLink is also the best engine management system out there for DSMs.
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Wait...what?
I think he's saying he knows someone who works for the Plymouth PD. His spelling is pretty bad.
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sorry
do you know some one that works for the Plymouth PD. just seeing since the wife does she might know them
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sorry
do you know some one that works for the Plymouth PD. just seeing since the wife does she might know them
That is what I was thinking... usually officers don't "pose" for pictures.
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