I just want to take a quick poll...

[Matt D.]

Bill Maher? Seriously? He's a political comedian, not an analyst. He makes a mockery of the political scene and more or less instigates people to say what he wants his viewers to hear.

How is Obama a leader? Illinois is a state of failure. State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country. Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. Chicago school system one of the worst in country. Remember, can't blame the Republicans in the state, because there are none.

Explain how he's going to fix our country when his very own state is a disaster.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Thanks for buying into it, Matt, The McCain campaign loves uneducated voters like you.

Now you're bashing me? Classy. Calling me an uneducated voter is like saying you're knowledgeable about DSM head installs. Yet again the only real "comeback" you have to anything I say is by calling me a McCain supporter.

Here, how about LA Times? Obama is a Palestine sympathizer. Don't tell me you don't trust this media source, there are studies that there is no such thing as media bias.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...231,full.story

[asshanson]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country.

Chicago isn't the only place with that sort of sales tax. I pay 10.5% every day in Minneapolis, granted that's not county-wide, but still just as bad.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

Bill Maher? Seriously? He's a political comedian, not an analyst. He makes a mockery of the political scene and more or less instigates people to say what he wants his viewers to hear.

How is Obama a leader? Illinois is a state of failure. State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country. Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. Chicago school system one of the worst in country. Remember, can't blame the Republicans in the state, because there are none.

Explain how he's going to fix our country when his very own state is a disaster.


Now you're bashing me? Classy. Calling me an uneducated voter is like saying you're knowledgeable about DSM head installs. Yet again the only real "comeback" you have to anything I say is by calling me a McCain supporter.

Here, how about LA Times? Obama is a Palestine sympathizer. Don't tell me you don't trust this media source, there are studies that there is no such thing as media bias.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...231,full.story

Ill go from the bottom up on your quote.
First off, McCain is the chairman of the International Republican Institute which "According to tax returns, the McCain-chaired IRI funded the organization Khalidi founded and served on to the tune of $448,873 in 1998 (click HERE to see the tax return)* as first reported by Seth Couter Walls at HuffPo. " from http://www.nowpublic.com/world/mccai...-plo-spokesman

Im not bashing, just stating that you should check your so called facts before stating they are true.

He has an actual plan that he has told the american people time and time again, instead of McCain stating he has a plan, but not telling anyone about it. Such as his so-called plan to catch Bin Laden, that he has told no one what the plan actually entails. So we are supposed to just believe him? The only plan McCain has is to take every cheap shot at barack that one of his cronies has told him, whether it be true or not.

Bill Maher is a political comedian, but yet he speaks a lot of truth, and sees through the BS that is the McCain Campaign. But does it with comedy, Does that make him bad? No. Everyone has a voice and we get to choose who we want to listen to.

[Matt D.]

Do you really think Obama's plans are going to pan out? This country is in debt. We can not afford anything he has put on the table.

[A//// Guy]

I cant wait till this is all over! haha

[Matt D.]

So my congress woman mailed me a letter after I left a message on her website bitching about her changing her vote from against the bailout bill to approving it. She replied saying it was needed, and why it was needed, but didn't explain how it would be paid back which is exactly what my concern was. In turn she sent me a copy of her floor statement to congress about the Act, and an article from Time/CNN about how $2 trillion was lost in retirement plans during the stock market downturn.

Wait... CNN. Tom doesn't trust CNN. This person voted for the economic stimulus plan. Obama and McCain both voted for it as well. I'll be damned if I'm not going to trust any one of them, because Tom doesn't trust the media source that my very own congresswoman shared a news story from.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

So my congress woman mailed me a letter after I left a message on her website bitching about her changing her vote from against the bailout bill to approving it. She replied saying it was needed, and why it was needed, but didn't explain how it would be paid back which is exactly what my concern was. In turn she sent me a copy of her floor statement to congress about the Act, and an article from Time/CNN about how $2 trillion was lost in retirement plans during the stock market downturn.

Wait... CNN. Tom doesn't trust CNN. This person voted for the economic stimulus plan. Obama and McCain both voted for it as well. I'll be damned if I'm not going to trust any one of them, because Tom doesn't trust the media source that my very own congresswoman shared a news story from.

I said i do not watch CNN. Not that i dont trust CNN. I just have no opinion on them because i dont watch it.

[311evo]

no matter what anyone says against obama, their allways wrong and get their news from somewhere else besides MTV, 16 year old girls on MySpace, and youtube, who seem to be the main media Backing O-bomb-America.

[311evo]

and Fox news is fake news why? because their not one-sided to Obama?

CBS news has spent 1.2 million dollars on Obama's campaign, while only 222 thousand on McCains.

Fox news has spent just over 400k on Obama's campaign, and just under 400k on McCains campaign.

The total for all the big media spending money on Obama Vs. McCain campaigns is double for Obama, then what it is for mcCain. Because he is, in fact, a celebrity.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

I said i do not watch CNN. Not that i dont trust CNN. I just have no opinion on them because i dont watch it.

Eat your own words.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

I know the following you will jump all over but who cares these are shows that i trust to give me news.
Real Time with Bill Maher
Countdown with Keith Olbermann
and the Rachel Maddow show.
Nothing on CNN or Fake News (fox news)

I bolded it for you.

I know this is on YouTube but this guy has a lot to say that is very true and if you watch a few of his things you will be able to see a clear choice and a lot of truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvc0tYG_YpA

[EclipseGST]

Question... So if you are not voting for one of the 2 candidates, why vote at all? In all honesty, does anyone think its going to do anything?


This thread needs to die a horrible death.

[john]

They are trying to back the independent party and try to gain more support. This was questioned several times a couple pages ago.

Matt, if you look at your posts on this thread, you are only posting anti-obama. It sure seems like you are backing McCain....

I like how it is brought up "how are we going to pay for these plans." Niether of the two are going to be able to do what they want. There is no way McCain can cut everyones taxes, fix economic problems, and come close to balancing the budget.

In looking at the canidates plans, Obama seems to have better solutions and a more feasable plan. When people read their plans, they have to realize that they are not always going to happen, the president isn't in total control. Yea, it would be great to reduce taxes, fix the economy, end the war and balance the budget but it is not realisitic. We have to prioritize.

On another note, when they talked about Joe the plumber, I do not know how they can call a business with $250k of taxable income a "small business." I have not worked with a client who owns a similar size business who isn't totally loaded. The owner usually has a salary of a couple hundred thousand (which is a deductable expense in arriving at $250k) and has more cash than they can spend. McCain is trying to make it seem like this guy is one of us and that he cannot afford more taxes.

Either way, this will all be over tomorrow. Nobody is going to be persuaded anymore. I just hope that everyone is able to vote without any problems. Go Obama!

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

Originally Posted by M/// Guy

I cant wait till this is all over! haha

Hopefully we won't have to suffer through someone not taking an ad off the air and seeing it wednesday!

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

Originally Posted by EclipseGST

Question... So if you are not voting for one of the 2 candidates, why vote at all? In all honesty, does anyone think its going to do anything?


This thread needs to die a horrible death.

Can we add a "not voting" option to the poll?

[DontStopMe]

Originally Posted by NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE

Can we add a "not voting" option to the poll?

lol, I'd vote then!

[MustGoFaster]

I voted already.

[Goat Blower]

Holy Crap! I made it even on this board at 35 votes each. Now I'm off to vote for my candidates for real.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by john

Matt, if you look at your posts on this thread, you are only posting anti-obama. It sure seems like you are backing McCain....

Of course it does. You, just like everyone else, are hell bent on bipartisan politics.

[96GSXMN]

I just got done voting and I voted for Mccain. I like my cars, guns, and my money. spread the wealth give me a break.