HIDs installed

[Halon]

I don't find HID's to be blinding at all. I personally feel they are easier on my eyes then the standard Halogen bulbs.

[At-Least-It's-An-Evo]

Originally Posted by Halon

I don't find HID's to be blinding at all. I personally feel they are easier on my eyes then the standard Halogen bulbs.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Those do look like 6000k. HID's are good shit. I am happy with my HIDs! Best cheapo investment ever.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by Halon

I don't find HID's to be blinding at all. I personally feel they are easier on my eyes then the standard Halogen bulbs.

As long as they are aimed properly and have the factory cut-offs they are fine.

[Black97civic]

Originally Posted by Halon

I don't find HID's to be blinding at all. I personally feel they are easier on my eyes then the standard Halogen bulbs.

Stock/well installed hid's or halfass installed ones like these. Stock/well installed ones are easier on the eyes because of the sharper cutoff and less glare, these will be worse than halogens because they will have all the problems that halogens have, and they are brighter, plus the housings aren't designed for HID bulbs, so the beam pattern would probably be worse.

I am seriously considering an HID projector retrofit for my honda, they are definately nice, getting cheaper by the day, and my current headlights suck balls.

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

Originally Posted by Black97civic

Stock/well installed hid's or halfass installed ones like these. Stock/well installed ones are easier on the eyes because of the sharper cutoff and less glare, these will be worse than halogens because they will have all the problems that halogens have, and they are brighter, plus the housings aren't designed for HID bulbs, so the beam pattern would probably be worse.

I am seriously considering an HID projector retrofit for my honda, they are definately nice, getting cheaper by the day, and my current headlights suck balls.

1. How do you know he halfassed the install? Have you seen it first hand?
2. How would the beam pattern be any different? the only difference is the brightness of the bulb. He didn't change the reflector of the headlight at all, hence: no change in beam pattern.

[Black97civic]

Originally Posted by Kevin_1G_Drummer

1. How do you know he halfassed the install? Have you seen it first hand?

He said that they are in standard halogen housings, that in and of itself makes it a halfassed install. I am sure he tightened down all the bolts, and has the headlights aligned, but he still didn't do it the correct way.

2. How would the beam pattern be any different? the only difference is the brightness of the bulb. He didn't change the reflector of the headlight at all, hence: no change in beam pattern.

Look at the image I attached, the one on the left is an HID bulb, the one on the right is a standard halogen, see any difference??

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

Read that link, or if you're too lazy, I'll quote the important part for you...

Halogen headlamps and HID headlamps require very different optics to produce a safe and effective—not to mention legal—beam pattern. How come? Because of the very different characteristics of the two kinds of light source.

A halogen bulb has a cylindrical light source: the glowing filament. The space immediately surrounding the cylinder of light is completely dark, and so the sharpest contrast between bright and dark is along the edges of the cylinder of light. The ends of the filament cylinder fade from bright to dark. An HID bulb, on the other hand, has a crescent-shaped light source -- the arc.

So yeah, a half assed, possibly dangerous, and illegal. Yeah, I doubt he will get pulled over for it, but it is still annoying as fuck when someone like him pulls up behind me and blinds the shit out of me even though "Its all good, I gotz tyte eyebrows on my headlights, lol!!"

BTW, maybe do a little bit of research before trying to sound like you know what you are talking about, everything I found came from common automotive knowledge, and 5 seconds of google searching.

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

Originally Posted by Black97civic

He said that they are in standard halogen housings, that in and of itself makes it a halfassed install. I am sure he tightened down all the bolts, and has the headlights aligned, but he still didn't do it the correct way.



Look at the image I attached, the one on the left is an HID bulb, the one on the right is a standard halogen, see any difference??

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

Read that link, or if you're too lazy, I'll quote the important part for you...



So yeah, a half assed, possibly dangerous, and illegal. Yeah, I doubt he will get pulled over for it, but it is still annoying as fuck when someone like him pulls up behind me and blinds the shit out of me even though "Its all good, I gotz tyte eyebrows on my headlights, lol!!"

BTW, maybe do a little bit of research before trying to sound like you know what you are talking about, everything I found came from common automotive knowledge, and 5 seconds of google searching.

In your opinion, it may be a half assed install, but it's just that: your opinion. I do agree that there are better ways to do the HID conversion, but I don't see a problem with doing it this way. If they're being manufactured to be installed this way, then I don't see a problem with it. I spent a good bit of time reading that article you posted a link to, and a few other articles he wrote. Yes there is a little difference in beam pattern, but I don't think it would hinder the performance of the headlights, considering there is more light output.

BTW, I wasn't trying to call you out, so there's no need to get all defensive.

[TsiEagleTalon92]

Originally Posted by Black97civic

Stock/well installed hid's or halfass installed ones like these. Stock/well installed ones are easier on the eyes because of the sharper cutoff and less glare, these will be worse than halogens because they will have all the problems that halogens have, and they are brighter, plus the housings aren't designed for HID bulbs, so the beam pattern would probably be worse.

I am seriously considering an HID projector retrofit for my honda, they are definately nice, getting cheaper by the day, and my current headlights suck balls.

So basically everything has to be done perfectly in life or why do anything at all? I see we can't have trial and error anymore, can't ever mess something up and be able to fix it if need be?

Everything has to be done the "Right Way" so we can all be the same and not have anything unique and of our own? No freedom to express ourselves in our own way.

Those lights are going to have the same "problem" as all halogen lights when halogens are pretty much the norm in automobiles nowadays? The only thing you have proven against them is that they are brighter... wow. You also state that housings arent designed for them.. custom done things don't tend to fit perfectly and not need tweeking or a different approach to getting it done. You also aren't even sure you know the answer to your own argument because you THINK the beam pattern will be worse. Maybe were not the only ones that need to research?

[Black97civic]

Originally Posted by TsiEagleTalon92

So basically everything has to be done perfectly in life or why do anything at all? I see we can't have trial and error anymore, can't ever mess something up and be able to fix it if need be?

Everything has to be done the "Right Way" so we can all be the same and not have anything unique and of our own? No freedom to express ourselves in our own way.

It's unsafe, whats so hard to understand? He did something, that by popular opinion, is not the correct way to do it. I didn't invent any of this, and I'm not telling him t do it my way or die, all I said was that it wasn't the right way to do it. And freedom of expression in modding cars, don't you think you might be reading into this a little too far?

Those lights are going to have the same "problem" as all halogen lights when halogens are pretty much the norm in automobiles nowadays? The only thing you have proven against them is that they are brighter... wow. You also state that housings arent designed for them.. custom done things don't tend to fit perfectly and not need tweeking or a different approach to getting it done. You also aren't even sure you know the answer to your own argument because you THINK the beam pattern will be worse. Maybe were not the only ones that need to research?

The problem is that these lights are brighter, making the glare worse than it should be, and the housings aren't designed for the shape of the bulb, making it even worse. Yeah, custom done things don't fit right, there was a link provided that has many tutorials and threads about the correct ways to do it right. He didn't do it the way that makes them function as intended, simple as that.

As far as doing research, so far it appears that only a few of us actually did any, and the original poster wasn't one of them. I'm not the only one that raised these points, so I would think it should be fairly obvious that I'm not just making this up to be a dick.