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Old 12-18-2006   #19
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Re: For those actually IN the Christmas Spirit...

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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty View Post
Ok, with the knowledge that there are 15 mods breathing down my neck, I will say that I never insulted her friend. But I really believe that personal choices deliver you to where you are or where you will be some time in the future. I choose to not smoke pot and play video games all day and have a menial job like moving or bagging groceries or something where i won't use my brain. I choose to take loans for school so I can get a good career and hopefully be as well off as my parents are (trust me, they are only average). I have seen and met people in "dire" situations, but guess what? this world is filled with options and ways for people to get themselves out of bad situations. It takes drive and determination and too many people lack that. They were imprinted with the fact that they have no control over their lives from a young age because the people they were around were a. lazy or b. unwilling to do more than just get by, so the standard is set.

I gaurantee all of you that her situation can be improved and she wouldn't have to change jobs or where she lives. I think the son should enlist in the military, and she should have a "lifestyle makover" - live and eat healthy, spend only the minimum on necessary items like food, clothing and electircity for your home. Reduce your extraneous costs and you get more money for things you really need.

Save money for the future or for the short term and put yourself through school; night classes if you have to work. It will pay off in troves.
First off, you shouldn't have to make a post if "15 mods are breathing down your neck"...maybe you shouldn't post if you don't actually have a fucking clue on the subject at hand. Tauni's post was titled "for those in the x-mas spirit" not, "who wants to rip this lady being described a new one".

On to your post:
Good points, however it is very obvious that you do not understand the "system".
Some people are forced into situations, some are by there by what you had said. Some people are infact lazy and just do what is needed to get by, and some are forced "down". The Section 8, welfare system in this country encourages lazyness or extreme sacrifice, it is by no means a "help you to get up and out" situation. This economy is VERY HARD to save money in, especially when you do not earn enough to survive (most families in that situation are WAY below the poverty line).
The fact that her son is abusive, shows he needs discipline, however him going into the military is highly unlikely. Odds are he does not HAVE enough discipline to even make it thru boot-camp. He will more than likely end up incarcerated, just a simple fact.

Schooling is a very good option, but for the thousands of single parents, it just isn't feasible.

I do agree that some people are just lazy and just take advantage of hand-outs and help-ups, but some people are truely grateful and really do need the help, especially this time of year.

So in closing, you could be 100% right or 100% wrong on this one, but quickly making a judgement on the situation is very bad.

I really don't want to get into this more, as I HAVE been there and do not want to share my experiences. Just let me say that I know what both sides of the coin look like from PERSONAL experience. I do not want to induldge in this further, I just hope that you will eventually understand the meaning of Christmas, Andrew.
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