10-31-2006
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
Drives: 2003 Evolution VIII
Posts: 7,752
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
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Originally Posted by dumb_ricer
Clutches cannot have a soft pedal effort and have a high clamp force on a clutch disk. It is NOT possible. Sure, you can move the "pivot" point on the fingers in or out a little bit, but not enough to be able to say it holds harder and is more comfortable on a leg. You can also use a different clutch disk material, which southbend seems to be doing with some success.
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Have you driven a car with a Southbend clutch? They hold just as much torque if not more than an ACT equivelant, and are a TON easier on your leg. After driving both I swear by Southbend, as do a handful of people on here.
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10-30-2006
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Tournaments Won: 3
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Drives: Lancer and Durango
Posts: 7,017
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
Jebus Christian. thankfully i didnt get my disk from napa, checker or pep boys, i decided OEM Mitsu would do just fine (with help from S2Kracka)
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10-30-2006
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I hate everyone
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Blaine
Posts: 938
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
I honestly don't think I would even consider buying a clutch from napa, or checker...... :x
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10-31-2006
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Reynolds number user
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: grove/tempe
Posts: 3,553
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
Well, at least you fixed it. I've bought 3 separate ACT clutches (2 of which i've actually driven) and they have given me exactly zero problems.
I did not buy 3 because they died by the way, they have all been on separate cars.
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11-01-2006
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
I have a 6 puck ACT racing clutch and 2600 pressure plate. I have never had a problem with either. I would not recommend the street disk for our cars.
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10-31-2006
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
dumb_ricer-
Actually yes you can have a stronger clamping force by making a disk that creates alot more friction. The pedal pressure was lighter because by using a feramic/kevlar lined disk. It is alot more grabby, so engagement isnt as smooth but Id rather have than than wear out every component from the fork, master/slave, and pedal assembly- which all had to be replaced after I had the 2600 in there for a while.
And the fingers on my old 2600 somehow just would not fully disengage the clutch. Its like the spring in the fingers wore out.
We all have our opinions... you can stick with act products, I will not.
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10-31-2006
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
My ACT disc is the revised one that's supposed to not have that issue anymore. I have RRE's X-Clutch.
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10-31-2006
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Boulder, CO
Drives: Conquest
Posts: 5,049
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
I've had no problems with my ACT for 3+ years.
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10-31-2006
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
My southbend clutch feels as soft as stock almost, yet is rated to hold around the 350-400 lbs-ft i believe. I also had a ACT 2600 and that fucker would make u pay for thinking u could hold the pedal down for a minute a quick light.
If your gonna make statements about other clutches, make sure you have experience about them. That actually goes with anything. Since i have used both ACT 2600 and a SOuthbend OFE i qualify.
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10-31-2006
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oak Point, TX
Drives: C8 Stingray Z51
Posts: 20,620
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
I have the Southbend DXD in my Laser and I'm really liking it. The pedal preasure is barely any heavier than stock, its easy to drive in stop-n-go traffic, and engages nice and solid. I do still like my old Centerforce Dual-Friction the best though, it didn't engage quite as harsh as the DXD so it was a bit smoother for daily driving.
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I agree with Kracka.
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11-02-2006
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
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Originally Posted by S2kracka
I do still like my old Centerforce Dual-Friction the best though,
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I agree. Centerforce is one of the best that I've personally experienced. Very good clutch.
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10-31-2006
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
I had a SPEC clutch in my old GST that I really liked too. Before the x-clutch, I had a Pro Clutch with a sprung 6-puck in the talon. I also liked it because of the soft pedal. Anywho, different strokes for different folks. I'm liking this x-clutch also. I have yet to really get a shitty clutch from any vendor.
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11-01-2006
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Kevin
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Shoreview
Posts: 3,356
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
When it comes to pedal pressures, I swear most of you are wimps. I've had 3 cars with act 2600lb clutches. No problems, and the pedal is stiff but not THAT bad. I've never had a problem with ACT, always took the abuse I threw at it with hard launches and such. I've used OEM new Mitsu clutches, that worked nice for an OEM, I've used a few ACT 2600lb w/ act street disk, act 2600 w/ feramic disk, and Act 2600 with 6puck SPRUNG ceramic disk (the current one clutch setup in my new car). I love the sprung 6puck!
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11-01-2006
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
No it really wasnt too bad for driving, except in heavy traffic... dealt with the 2600 for 2 summers. The pedal pressure is just another negative thing associated with a heavy PP. The major problems occur when it strains all the components between your foor and the actual clutch- master/slave/pedal assembly/fork/ball etc.
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11-01-2006
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
Posts: 13,908
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Re: well my talon hates my evo III swap
Sleepy anyone can handle any clutch, the deal is that our cars ran for more than 2-3 days at a time so we could actually feel the stiffness of the clutches.
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