Snowmobiling - Page 2

dumb_ricer · 12-20-2005

Just got back from fucking around in woodbury and cottage grove.

My sled is siezed, so I took out my dad's 99 Polaris XC 600. I think I probably put about 20 miles on it in about an hour just fucking around. I cant get over how fast the fuckers are from 30-80mph. Before 30, there is no traction, and above 80, it starts to stop pulling quite as hard, but in the middle my god do you fly.

Blizzard, we should meet up sometime and fuck around in some ditch's or something. I live right off of 70th Street in cottage grove. My house is literally a backyard away from the trail. We could meet up somewhere around 19. Only thing is, the cornfields south of 70th suck. The fields north of 70th are nice though.

TheBlizzard · 12-21-2005

Yeah sure send me a PM with your phone number, I am thinking of going again on Thursday afternoon. And yes there is plenty of snow here to ride on. There are a few bare patches where you stop because of everyone shit canning when they take off but other than that its ok.

And Jim gotta love the XC 600s, they really fucking pull hard on this nice hard packed snow.

CarPsyco84 · 12-21-2005

I could see about stealing my dads 03' MXZ 600 REV. but I doubt it. He told me he raced some dude at his work that had a 800 XC, and he worked it... haha so 800 polaris<600 MXZ REV. might have to disprove this or somthin sometime...

TheBlizzard · 12-21-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarPsyco84

I could see about stealing my dads 03' MXZ 600 REV. but I doubt it. He told me he raced some dude at his work that had a 800 XC, and he worked it... haha so 800 polaris<600 MXZ REV. might have to disprove this or somthin sometime...

Hes is either bullshiting you or the dude on the XC didn't know how to ride. The XC 800 would smoke a 600 rev in every aspect as far as speed goes. Might not be as nice or ride as nice but the XCs are fast. Take it out sometime, I will run you with my XC 600, you will be surprised.

dumb_ricer · 12-21-2005

I can see a 600 REV beat a XC800 from a stop, because polaris's tend to get horrible holeshot's compared to other sleds, but the mid and top end on polaris's is a lot better. When I race people on my dad's sled it usually goes they win off the line and then i slowly walk on them until about 80, then about 80 i start pulling decently.

Hell, Polaris motors are probably the best of them, maybe with the new artic cat F7 and stuff being the best now. This is not counting some of the Yamaha stuff of course, lol RX1.

Now all Polaris has to do is build a new damn chassis to run with the REV and the Artic Cats.

CarPsyco84 · 12-21-2005

He said he walked it, so in the mid range 40-90ish, he out accelerated it.... its got a clutch on it, otherwise the REV is stock, my dad doesn't make crap up... he's like me, he likes surprising people, even he said he didn't think he'd beat it, but either hes made that sled slower or maybe people underestimate the ski-doo POWA!!

TheBlizzard · 12-21-2005

Doubt it bud. The XC 800 has 136hp stock and the 600 Rev has 115hp. I have no doubt that the Rev would get it out of the hole no problem but there is no way in hell that its going to pull on it from 40-90mph. Unless its some 'freak' sled or something. 20lbs doesn't make up for 21hp it is lacking.

Like I said bring it out sometime. Either way they are sweet sleds. And I have rode the F7s and they one of the fastest sleds out there right now hands down.

niterydr · 12-21-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlizzard

Doubt it bud. The XC 800 has 136hp stock and the 600 Rev has 115hp. I have no doubt that the Rev would get it out of the hole no problem but there is no way in hell that its going to pull on it from 40-90mph. Unless its some 'freak' sled or something. 20lbs doesn't make up for 21hp it is lacking.

Like I said bring it out sometime. Either way they are sweet sleds. And I have rode the F7s and they one of the fastest sleds out there right now hands down.

Unless Car's dad is like 150 and the other dude was 300lbs. Then the power to weight ratio might be thrown off.

**JET** · 12-21-2005

The rider does make a big difference on bikes and sleds because of the low weight. I have been looking and I just got a reply back from a guy with '03 F7 EFI sno-pro for $4500. That is pretty cheap! I just bought a car though, so I shouldn't be spending more money!

A//// Guy · 12-21-2005

Dont spend that much on a sled JET, if I were you get something older like Craigs for a couple grand max and ride it for a couple months out of the year, because that is really all the time we get around here haha.

**JET** · 12-21-2005

I just talked to him. He is pretty negotiable on the price too! 192 studs, newer track, 2600 miles, '05 seat (taller), rebuilt shocks end of last year, screen kit, chrome windshield, etc. The only thing is that I don't know if Andy would pull it with his truck since it is green!

I might offer him $4k and see if he takes it.

DSM1G · 12-21-2005

Yea I went snowmobiling by my house last friday, it was awesome for the first time this year. Felt really good being out there again. I drove out to Coon Lake which is pretty close to my house and hit a few patches of open water. Its okay though I was going pretty fast.

97gstchick · 12-21-2005

I've never gone snowmobiling before, I've always wanted to try it. Yet I don't know anyone who has one.

I've rode many many jetski's, is it pretty much like the same thing, yet on snow and colder?

TheBlizzard · 12-22-2005

Yeah the F7s are really fast and handle really well. But I agree that its a lot to spend. If you could get it for 4 grand that would be a great deal though. For a novice rider an F7 would be a lot to handle though. They put my XC to shame and that thing is scary fast.

Nash · 12-22-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by JET

The only thing is that I don't know if Andy would pull it with his truck since it is green!

I'm not towing any sleds until I have a new one for my self to ride, or I get mine fixed.

TalonFiero · 12-22-2005

You have to take the sled X beat sled Y arguments/stories with a grain of salt. To many things come into play to really know what is going on. Things like tracks, studs, clutching, rider, trail/lake/field conditions, jetting/temps, suspension come into play to know if it was a fair comparison. I didn't even get into engine mods.

I have ridden my brother in laws 05' F7 ($8,100) quite a bit, awesome sled. I agree it is wicked fast but on the trails it feels a little tippy, great on jumps or ditch banging though. My brother's 98 xc440 would eat the F7 up on the trails, my 98 xc600 with slightly upgraded suspension (rear skid from 99 xc700sp) doesn't have a problem staying with the F7 or even put distance on it on trails. Lakes, ditches, straight line you can forget about it, that F7 owns pretty hard.

BTW, my brother inlaws F7 stickered at $8,100, I paid $950 for my 98 xc600 a couple years ago, and my bro just bought a nice low mile 98 xc 440 for $1,700. My point being, I seriously doubt my brother in law is having any more fun than my brother and I are and the performance vs. dollar amount isn't worth it for a brand new sled IMO.

Some of the prices my friends have paid for sleds this year.

99 XC700 4,800 miles but the sled is mint with all the options $1,700
99 XC600sp 1,300 miles sled is also mint looks brand new $2,400
98 XC440 1,800 miles Red Rocket race sled, great shape $1,700

We MUST organize a DSMStyle ride this winter.

Jim

**JET** · 12-22-2005

Jim, that is interesting. From what I have read on forums and in reviews the F7 is better on the trail than the new Polaris', but not quite as good as the Rev chassis. I have a Suzuki bike, so a Cat is the obvious choice for me since it has a Suzuki engine. I can't find a 600 Rev in the price range I want. As for the F7 being tippy, you have to get off your butt and lean a little!

TheBlizzard · 12-22-2005

I paid $1,000 for my XC 600 w/ only 2000 miles on it. It has two spare hoods and windshields as well. And its in very good shape.

My 99 MXZ 670HO I paid $2,700 for it two years ago which was a hell of a deal at the time.

I agree that getting a top dollar sled doesn't make it more fun or can't guarantee that its going to ride better either.

When I rode the F7 I thought it was a decent sled and very fast on the top end, but as far as riding it for a long time I wouldn't have it for anything. It was uncomfratable and just felt weird to ride. When you pinned it you better hand on though. I didn't find it tippy at all since the motor on them is mounted further back and lower in the chassis. That was one of its best feature to me.

If somebody wanted to trade me any sled for my XC it would have to be a brand new Ski Doo Rev 800 or something similar. Maybe a Polaris Fusion 900. I wouldn't take any of the new Artic Cat sleds, they have fell way behind Polaris and Ski Doo in technology. They used to be the shit with their suspensions, but now everybody else has caught on and passed them up with motor technology that is second to none.

I am going again today since its so nice out. Try to get as far north as I can.

TheBlizzard · 12-22-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by JET

As for the F7 being tippy, you have to get off your butt and lean a little!

They are actually one of the least tippy sleds out there today. You don't have to lean hardly at all because of where the motor is mounted.

That is the one thing I noticed when I rode it, it felt like you couldn't tip it unless you really fucked up.

TheBlizzard · 12-22-2005

If you read about the F7s too you will see that from rider reviews that they are actually the highest rated sleds in 06. Even the Revs were second on the site I got information from. 140hp in a sled that weighs 470lbs is nasty.