Bill O'Reilly is a knucklehead

[Matt D.]

Apparently the tides just happen. The moon, sun and gravity have nothing to do with them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_805262.html

[goodhart]

What a boner hahaha

[Goat Blower]

The only thing I got out of that was that the guy he interviewed is a total crackpot. I don't know where he was going with the tide comment, but that other guy saying the church is full of atheists makes even less sense.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

The only thing I got out of that was that the guy he interviewed is a total crackpot. I don't know where he was going with the tide comment, but that other guy saying the church is full of atheists makes even less sense.

LOL do i even need to comment about this? There are so many things that i could say that will likely get me banned that ill just shut up.
But i want to say one thing. Why are you calling the atheist a crackpot?

[Halon]

I hate the way he conducts interviews, so annoying. Just get louder and speak over the other person to try and make your standpoint superior to the other.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by Halon

I hate the way he conducts interviews, so annoying. Just get louder and speak over the other person to try and make your standpoint superior to the other.

Yep, he has no self control when it comes to interviews. Makes me sick. I don't care what people believe one way or the other, but it's like he invited this guy on the show to speak down on him so he could sleep better at night.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

DO IT LIVE!! F*CKIN THING SUCKS!

[goodhart]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

Yep, he has no self control when it comes to interviews. Makes me sick. I don't care what people believe one way or the other, but it's like he invited this guy on the show to speak down on him so he could sleep better at night.

Isn't that how all of his interviews are? lol

[Febo]

Bahahahaha!!! OMG, thats rich.

I didn't actually watch the video but just that snapshot of it is hilarious.

Also, I do feel that the atheist was a little out of line funding a billboard promoting atheism. Not because I think atheists are wrong, its just a downer to Christmas. Christmas time isn't the time to be trying to tell everyone how the holiday is a complete and utter fabrication of the church. (No, I'm not an atheist, I am an agnostic, there is a difference)

[1ViciousGSX]

I actually saw that live. It was not one of his better moments. But the other guy was just as bad. "Oh my, please come save me!!! I'm glued to this Church pew and I can't get up!!!" If you don't want to be there, there's nobody making you stay.

I don't think the church is filled with atheist, that's crazy.

I will say though, all this religion bashing going on these days is weakening the country more than it's helping. I mean really, who cares? Believe what you want. Give the other person respect for what he believes.

[awd-drifter]

*sighs* *facepalm*

[awd-drifter]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

I will say though, all this religion bashing going on these days is weakening the country more than it's helping. I mean really, who cares? Believe what you want. Give the other person respect for what he believes.

agreed!!

[jrohner]

Well since David Silverman's going to hell with the other non-believers, I think he's the knucklehead.

[Febo]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

I will say though, all this religion bashing going on these days is weakening the country more than it's helping. I mean really, who cares? Believe what you want. Give the other person respect for what he believes.

Totally agree with that 100%

Originally Posted by jrohner

Well since David Silverman's going to hell with the other non-believers, I think he's the knucklehead.

Wow....

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

LOL do i even need to comment about this? There are so many things that i could say that will likely get me banned that ill just shut up.
But i want to say one thing. Why are you calling the atheist a crackpot?

Because even as he agreed with, atheists are approximately 2% of the population, yet this guy thinks that all churches are full of closet atheists just going through the motions to impress other people at church. That's exactly like saying that most American men are closet homosexuals just waiting to get out,but pretend to be heterosexuals to impress other closet homos.

He's clearly speaking down to Christians, of which 80% of America claims to be, so the 2% are calling the 80% idiots in so many words. He has no idea of what he's talking about, so he's a crackpot.

Why exactly are the smallest groups the loudest whiners?

BTW, I'm not a big fan of Bill's interview techniques myself, I agree with a lot of what he has to say, but I prefer a slightly less confrontational approach. But then again, you've got the Katie Couric's and pretty much every other so-called reporter who constantly try to talk down any conservative they interview, so in that respect, Bill's a pretty nice guy. At least he doesn't pull out useless gotcha questions that have zero bearing on the focus of the interview.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

Because even as he agreed with, atheists are approximately 2% of the population, yet this guy thinks that all churches are full of closet atheists just going through the motions to impress other people at church. That's exactly like saying that most American men are closet homosexuals just waiting to get out,but pretend to be heterosexuals to impress other closet homos.

He's clearly speaking down to Christians, of which 80% of America claims to be, so the 2% are calling the 80% idiots in so many words. He has no idea of what he's talking about, so he's a crackpot.

Why exactly are the smallest groups the loudest whiners?

BTW, I'm not a big fan of Bill's interview techniques myself, I agree with a lot of what he has to say, but I prefer a slightly less confrontational approach. But then again, you've got the Katie Couric's and pretty much every other so-called reporter who constantly try to talk down any conservative they interview, so in that respect, Bill's a pretty nice guy. At least he doesn't pull out useless gotcha questions that have zero bearing on the focus of the interview.

First off, where is this 2% coming from. i would love to see some studies or polls that actually support this. Because going by Bill O'really's word is not enough at all.
Secondly, I dont know why the smallest groups are the loudest whiners, maybe i should be asking that of the Republicans/Tea Partiers? They were the clear losers in the 08 election, and all i heard the past two years was how obama was destroying this country. WHINE WHINE WHINE. (and no i dont use the midterms as a method of determining majority because not as many people vote in those)
Finally, I am clearly an Atheist, I will never hide from that. The guy being interviewed was seriously going about the whole interview the wrong way and I have a strong feeling that Bill o'reallys staff did their research and knew he would be a dumbass. Any true Atheist would have DESTROYED Bill on EVERY SINGLE Question he stated. Going to his website, the approach he is taking towards Atheism and Religon, is just wrong. Sure its about believing in something completely different than what the masses think, but he is constantly on the attack, trying to disprove every story by the bible, koran and other books. The problem with that is that the stories of the bible, koran and religious books are not based on scientific fact, but to push a moral compass to north. (although this has been twisted and misinterpreted over the years like a large game of telephone).
Like when he says "the majority of christians are really Atheists". This quote should have been stated more like "The majority of Christians DO NOT act like christians." They go to church, yes, but then they treat others like shit and hide behind this veil of "Love Jesus". Example: Gun nuts, protecting their guns with all their might, killing "Gods Creatures" for sport and not for food, and yet they say they follow the path of jesus. I didnt realise that Jesus toted a AK and blasted all of the non believers and deer, rabbits, turkeys etc. Thats what i call rapture. hahah.
Its not that the Bill O'Really's 80% of people are stupid for believing in organized religion, but the majority of them are (and i hate to say this because im sure i will offend) sheep. They follow blindly without trying to question. The problem is that if someone changes the meaning of a passage, to fit their needs, whether it be to start a war, to bomb a building, or to condemn another. All of these are in a little thing we call history. Remember people, the bible, has been changed many MANY times over the centurys, to expand and bring in new groups of people.
My two cents, the only advice i can give you, is get educated. and Pick up the new book by Stephen Hawkings. oh... and coexist with all religions, and people. No one is right, no one is wrong. we all have our beliefs.

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

First off, where is this 2% coming from. i would love to see some studies or polls that actually support this. Because going by Bill O'really's word is not enough at all.

You're little atheist buddy didn't disagree with that number, which constitutes agreement in this case. It's not just Bill saying it.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Secondly, I dont know why the smallest groups are the loudest whiners, maybe i should be asking that of the Republicans/Tea Partiers?

Nice try, but you're not even close. The Republicans are about 50% of the country which flops back and forth every four to eight years. A big difference from 2%.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

They were the clear losers in the 08 election, and all i heard the past two years was how obama was destroying this country. WHINE WHINE WHINE. (and no i dont use the midterms as a method of determining majority because not as many people vote in those)

You probably should, because clearly the only people that didn't turn out to vote was the democrats. But you can stick your head in the sand if you like.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Finally, I am clearly an Atheist, I will never hide from that. The guy being interviewed was seriously going about the whole interview the wrong way and I have a strong feeling that Bill o'reallys staff did their research and knew he would be a dumbass.

Nothing wrong with that, everybody is entitled to their beliefs as they see fit. Diversity makes the world go round.

The guy they interviewed was the supposed leader of the atheist movement, were they supposed to interview a bunch of people and pick the best debater? He was the one that put up the billboards, he can certainly be asked why he did it.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Any true Atheist would have DESTROYED Bill on EVERY SINGLE Question he stated.

So this guy was a fake atheist? Maybe he's a Christian just waiting to come out of the closet?

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Sure its about believing in something completely different than what the masses think, but he is constantly on the attack, trying to disprove every story by the bible, koran and other books. The problem with that is that the stories of the bible, koran and religious books are not based on scientific fact, but to push a moral compass to north. (although this has been twisted and misinterpreted over the years like a large game of telephone).

Scientific fact means something is proven beyond all doubt. Science can't prove that the bible or other religious books aren't true, and can't even prove it's own theories on evolution and such, it's all just a theory, so that's not really a point.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Like when he says "the majority of christians are really Atheists". This quote should have been stated more like "The majority of Christians DO NOT act like christians." They go to church, yes, but then they treat others like shit and hide behind this veil of "Love Jesus". Example: Gun nuts, protecting their guns with all their might, killing "Gods Creatures" for sport and not for food, and yet they say they follow the path of jesus. I didnt realise that Jesus toted a AK and blasted all of the non believers and deer, rabbits, turkeys etc. Thats what i call rapture. hahah.

So all Christians should act the way you interpret, in something you don't believe in? I don't remember anything in the Bible stating "thou shall not hunt for sport". Just because you don't believe in guns, doesn't mean anybody else needs to.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Its not that the Bill O'Really's 80% of people are stupid for believing in organized religion, but the majority of them are (and i hate to say this because im sure i will offend) sheep. They follow blindly without trying to question.

There are a certain amount that fit that description, there's also a equal amount that delve into the Bible much farther than you know, but I don't know how you'd figure that out by reading the huffington post.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

My two cents, the only advice i can give you, is get educated. and Pick up the new book by Stephen Hawkings.

That's not advice, that's a high opinion of one's self, a common trait among liberals and atheists. Stephen Hawking? Maybe at some point, but it's not high on my list.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

we all have our beliefs.

We do agree on one thing.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

You're little atheist buddy didn't disagree with that number, which constitutes agreement in this case. It's not just Bill saying it.

My little atheist buddy??? Give me a fucking break, retract that statement because you sound very ignorant and immature. like i said later, he is not a leader of atheism. The more you talk, the more you prove to us you know less about what atheism is.

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

Nice try, but you're not even close. The Republicans are about 50% of the country which flops back and forth every four to eight years. A big difference from 2%.

Like i said, Show me facts that say 2% of the people are atheists. And this doesnt flip flop, this will continue to gain strength as more facts come out about the true nature of the universe and how we have all come to be.

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

Nothing wrong with that, everybody is entitled to their beliefs as they see fit. Diversity makes the world go round.

The guy they interviewed was the supposed leader of the atheist movement, were they supposed to interview a bunch of people and pick the best debater? He was the one that put up the billboards, he can certainly be asked why he did it.

WTF? because he has a website called athiests.org? I believe that if there were a leader of the "Atheist Movement", as you like to call it, would be some of the great minds of the past and present, such as Stephen Hawking, Carl Sagen, Issac Newton, Johannes Kepler, Galileo, Rene Descartes, These people have provided more scientific theories, and proof that disproves the bible and religious beliefs than the idiot on bills show.
The guy that appeared on Bills show, is all about attacking religion, which is simply not the case with most Atheists. While Science (Atheism) will in the near future (if not already) disprove the myth of the almighty, Atheism is all about the quest to unravel the mysteries of how we came to be, as well as put scientific theories, and models to ACTUALLY show this. unlike Christians thought of going blindly into the light.

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

So this guy was a fake atheist? Maybe he's a Christian just waiting to come out of the closet?

Fake, probably not, as he likely believes the methodology behind it, poorly portrayed and not a good interviewer, absolutely. I would love to see Bill O'really, go up against Stephan Hawking or a brilliant physicist, and watch him be absolutely demolished. But thats not in Bills nature. he has to feel superior.

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

Scientific fact means something is proven beyond all doubt. Science can't prove that the bible or other religious books aren't true, and can't even prove it's own theories on evolution and such, it's all just a theory, so that's not really a point.

Scientific fact disproved that the earth was flat, the earth wasnt the center of the universe, created the laws of nature, gravity, motion. And more then what the bible states. If the bible was a scientific book, God would cause the rock to fall from my hand, Earth would be the center of the universe where the sun revolves around us.

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

So all Christians should act the way you interpret, in something you don't believe in? I don't remember anything in the Bible stating "thou shall not hunt for sport". Just because you don't believe in guns, doesn't mean anybody else needs to.

If you "Walk the Path of Jesus Christ", then gun toting hicks must have a pretty interesting picture of Jesus "Rambo" Christ. hahah. Are you serious with that statement. Because there are so many things wrong with that.

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

There are a certain amount that fit that description, there's also a equal amount that delve into the Bible much farther than you know, but I don't know how you'd figure that out by reading the huffington post.

Do i need to quote the pew study that proved that Atheists know more about the teachings of Christianity than Christians?

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

That's not advice, that's a high opinion of one's self, a common trait among liberals and atheists. Stephen Hawking? Maybe at some point, but it's not high on my list.

Are you serious?!?!? "the only advice i can give you, is get educated." So uhm... you dont want to get educated? I dont care about whether you choose to get educated about your own religion, or not, just educate yourself about whats out there instead of following blindly a book that was written when the earth was flat. But if you choose the blind path, thats entirely up to you.

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

We do agree on one thing.

[Super Bleeder!!]

Take it to PMs, ladies.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!!

Take it to PMs, ladies.

There is nothing wrong with religious debate in the way off topic thread. we arent really making it personal. Just heated debate.