02-23-2007
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Nos kit or Kyro kit
Looking for some extra snert on the street/ track and have been dabbing with the idea of running Nos or Kyro. I have a 98 GST Evo3 turbo with supporting mods, my question has anyone played with these componets and could give me good numbers such as gains hp wise on price and bottle fill stuff like that. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
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Last edited by bluntedelvis; 02-23-2007 at 10:23 AM..
Reason: Cause im a moron
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02-23-2007
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
Do you want to spray into the motor on onto the intercooler? A 10lb bottle fill is around $40. Purging onto an intercooler uses a lot more nitrous than what you would spray into the motor. A lot of the gains that have been had from spraying nitrous onto an intercooler are actually because the nitrous eventually ends up getting sucked into the intake and makes its way to the engine.
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02-23-2007
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
Looking to spray in too the FMIC, and 2 purges comming out the wheel well's
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02-23-2007
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: FargO
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
Why don't you just spray into the manifold? Like ecoli was just saying, most of the power gained from spraying into the fmic is because some nitrous gets into the engine. Why not just put ALL the nitrous into the engine 
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02-23-2007
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
If you have octane left to spare, then just raise your boost.
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02-23-2007
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back in the saddle again
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
No.
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02-23-2007
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Shit Rocket Pilot
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Shoreview, MN
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
Quote:
Originally Posted by niterydr
No.
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Simple, yet effective. Maybe some more emphasis will help.
NO.
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Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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02-23-2007
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aka Goodbye
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
You don't need a purge if you're spraying the intercooler, unless this is just for looks. If that's the case, you should probably get an electric blow off valve from Ebay as well. Makes cool swooshing noise.
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02-23-2007
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
I am guessing that Co2 would be a lot less expensive then nitrous oxide. Maybe not though? Similar effect too with what you want to do with it.
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02-23-2007
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aka Goodbye
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
An hour of dyno tuning would be money better spent.
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02-23-2007
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
Looking more at Kyro, same effects as Nos without the damaging after effects. Purge for looks
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02-23-2007
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Kevin
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Shoreview
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
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Originally Posted by bluntedelvis
Looking more at Kyro, same effects as Nos without the damaging after effects. Purge for looks
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HAHAHAHAHA wow. Might want to add "AND I get to add one more sticker to my car!!"
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02-24-2007
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
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Originally Posted by sleepydsm
HAHAHAHAHA wow. Might want to add "AND I get to add one more sticker to my car!!"
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No, all done with Vinlys, actually this summer sometime going to have the rocket repainted Rasberry Pearl Metalic, But thanks guys for the Info.
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02-23-2007
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Area code 166 represent
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Crystal, MN
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
You know, I'll give the kid a break cause he's going to do what he wants to do. And it's his choice and frankly he seems to be taking the fun poking pretty well, which holds some gound here if you think about it. I missed the feeling with Tom first came around here, as I'm sure some of you missed from the days of the scorchers.
In reality though, using a NOS setup for an IC sprayer and fun visual effects is going to be more of a downfall for you. First, it's going to be wasted money. And a constant flow of it till you get bored with the concept and then you have to spend more to either use the system properly or take it out and sell it. Second, you'll be tempted to show off on the street and other location that could in fact just get you in trouble for having it on your car. It's not legal to use nitrus on the road in any way, if you are caught with a bottle chances are you'll at least get a ticket and depending on the cops and time frame you will end up at the impound lot.
Nitrus is a powerful and fun tool to use if done safely and I think you should think about this again. There are other ways to draw attention or set yourself apart from the others.
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02-24-2007
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
Good choice to be done with the vinyls. Can't be helped it seems to be a trait with people this side of the cities esp. just thankful you don't drive a beretta GTZ and think its the shit.
Anywho. Josh said no, he is the tuner of your car. Do your research and go to him with what you want to do.
He will explain his point of view and you yours. In the end its your decision, and then it will be made, but i can honestly say if you don't know shit about tuning, then at least talk to him face to face and maybe you can get some other options for power.
Cams? (i don't really know your setup to mention anything else, usually when asking for mod upgrades please state all/most important mods, it helps)
Also Steve hit it right on the button, more dyno time, fine tuning.
The guys running low numbers on 16G and other turbo's that are now considered small did so from constant retuning and track time, maybe just save some money and wait for the season to begin.
Hope this helps.
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02-24-2007
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
Yes, Josh is the Tuner of my whip & the guys at LSE great group, I have been their many times to pick his brain on things, "Sometimes I think I get annoying and forget to ask all these silly question's" but anywho, I would take his advise on just about anything retaining to the car. Just when leaving his shop the other day came across an SRT-4 with this Kyro Kit spraying in the intercooler and 2 Purges looked really sweet and took off like a bat out of hell, just woundering about Hp gains "if any", has anyone used this, stuff like that
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02-25-2007
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
If you use CO2 instead of nitrous and any of the CO2 gets into the engine, then you will lose power.
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02-25-2007
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
Why dont you just get a Meth injection kit or Propane or Water injection kit.
Its a lot cheaper than nitrous and you can run higher boost/make more power on pump gas instead of having to spend $50 or so every time you fill your nitrous tank.
256whp on an Evo III 16g doesnt seem like much with 20psi. I made 275whp at 15psi with an S-AFC, 550s and the stock fuel pump... What are your mods?
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02-25-2007
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aka Goodbye
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
Ouch, my head hurts. It's Cryo, not Kyro or Cairo, the city with those pointy things on the outskirts of town.
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03-05-2007
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SpunBearing
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Re: Nos kit or Kyro kit
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Originally Posted by Goat Blower
Ouch, my head hurts. It's Cryo, not Kyro or Cairo, the city with those pointy things on the outskirts of town.
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LOL. Too funny.
Are you getting what people are saying? For the $500 on a sprayer you could actually make more power versus looking cool. I think its more fun to pull away from a car than look better, but its up to you.
Can't he purge meth inj. if thats what he is really after??
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