12-05-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
Aww, no more baby turbo?  Looks sexeh, I love the ef-series compressor wheels.
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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12-05-2012
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#722
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
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Originally Posted by scheides
Aww, no more baby turbo?  Looks sexeh, I love the ef-series compressor wheels.
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Still looks baby to me  I guess mine doesn't "look" much different lol.
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12-05-2012
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
How big is the EF2 inlet? 2.5"?
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12-06-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
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Originally Posted by goodhart
How big is the EF2 inlet? 2.5"?
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Right about that. The EF2 reuses the stock turbo inlet elbow.
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12-06-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
Ooooh, shiny!
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12-09-2012
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#726
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
MAP EF2.5 installed and tuned by Cobb yesterday while I was in Austin, TX for an event.
426whp
393wtq
27.69 psig (peak) holding a flat 26 past redline.
Still on 93-octane pump gas and stock cams! Solid gains over the EF2, but definitely lost some spool and response. This is with the 3" anti-surge cover, but MAP also sent me a 3" standard cover so I'm thinking if I swap that one on I'll gain back some spool and response. I'll talk to MAP about it and go from there. The car is definitely a beast for a DD, and I believe this is the farthest Cobb has ever pushed the stock cams and it's getting up there for pump gas numbers too. My previous results on the EF2 were 413/384; peak boost was right about the same, ~27psi. I think this is yet another good turbocharger option from MAP. While not replacing any of the current models, it's a good fit between the EF2 and EF3 as intended.
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12-09-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
So it's the EF2 wheels, just different housings?
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12-09-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
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Originally Posted by Halon
So it's the EF2 wheels, just different housings?
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No. EF2 turbine wheel, but with a different compressor wheel that allows for the larger 3" inlet. The EF2 compressor wheel isn't big enough to warrant anything but the stock turbo inlet
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12-09-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
So what size is the comp wheel?
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12-09-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
It's the EF3's compressor wheel.
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12-09-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
Tell Kevin or Calvin to get that shit up on the database!
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12-09-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
I'm hoping Kevin gets it up tomorrow.
I just got back from a pretty good drive and the car really does rip and pulls hard all the way to rev-limiter! It drives really smooth throughout the RPM range, I'm giving thanks to the anti-surge for that. I would like to get a touch of response and spool back though, so I'm thinking it would be ideal to give up a bit of that smoothness in the name of response and swap over to the standard cover. I'm questioning whether this turbo actually needs the anti-surge ports.
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12-09-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
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Originally Posted by Halon
So what size is the comp wheel?
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Originally Posted by Kracka
It's the EF3's compressor wheel.
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Yea, probably ~56mm compressor about the size of an FP Red.
My BBX had a stock compressor cover on it and was even bigger than this compressor setup so going back to a non-antisurge should work just fine. You have mivec to take away any surge that might 'just happen' from the conversion. Should add another 1-2% everywhere powerwise so you might just hit 430
Honestly I'm a tish skeptical if it will really help down low though but I really don't think it will hurt to try.
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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12-10-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
That kind of power on stock cams and pump is very amazing. Very nice!
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12-11-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
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12-11-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
Looks like it needs more boost thrown at it to better illustrate the difference.
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12-11-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
Look like the ef2 is better. The spool up doesnt look all that great on the 2.5
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12-11-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
I'm discussing with MAP and we have a few ideas on changes to try. This is why it's called prototype testing I suppose 
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12-11-2012
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
Yea I agree, for the "ultimate street turbo" you are after Kracka I don't see the advantage with the 2.5. Hell, my EF4 is only about 200rpms behind your turbo up to 27psi and I am not even on full mivec (obviously totally different setups, but still).
EF2 ftw on your car. /pray new cover helps.
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12-11-2012
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#740
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Reynolds number user
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Re: GheyrodX - bigger, fatter, gheyer!
Hughes you should run that thing down the 1/4 mile someday. I don't really care about the ET but i'm curious as to what sort of trap speeds it would pull.
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