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Old 11-29-2004   #41
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Sad part it they had to issue warnings this past week advising other Hmong people to not go hunting in WI due to possible retaliations. Fucking WI trash. I blame this partly on the media for stressing "asian man" over and over again rather than just calling by his name.
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Old 11-29-2004   #42
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The sad part is that just like OJ, those high profile lawyers will end up getting him off the hook. Nice to see the justice system and tax dollars going to such a good use!
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Sad part it they had to issue warnings this past week advising other Hmong people to not go hunting in WI due to possible retaliations. Fucking WI trash. I blame this partly on the media for stressing "asian man" over and over again rather than just calling by his name.


Hmmm..... i'm from Wisconsin and now i'm trash??? The guy is from St. Paul but regardless of where he's from he murdered 6 people. I'd like to think that 75-80% or even higher, population of the U.S. is white people. So when a foreigner commits something like this, of course they're gonna say Asian or whatever he is. What's this got to do with Wisconsin? This was all over the national news, CNN, etc...

Last year(just south of here) a guy was shot to death by 2 bullets to the back, by what witnesses say a Hmong man with a similar or same bullet(i'm not sure what they said), and the vehicle matches what he was driving. These were statements made a year ago, not just recently after all this came about.

To say that WI is trash is ridiculous. Perhaps you'd feel a little different if this happened closer to your neighborhood.
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Old 11-29-2004   #44
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I dont know why they're going to put him on trial. He already said that he killed all of those people, so you know he wont win. The lawyers are only doing this for the money and publicity IMO. I say lock him up and get this over with. It sucks to have the same last name as him. People think he is my uncle! I dont know why some people are supporting him, if he can kill that many people and still keep a straight face on tv then he deserves life in prison.
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Yea why would you say that Chris about WI... Doesnt matter where it happened, people will still fall back on their ideas and biases toward other people... Look at 9/11, all middle eastern people where looked at the same way... So I guess everyone else is trash too.

You dont know what his intentions are or if anyone else is involved around this issue. Supposedly he was hunting with a few people that never stepped up, so maybe next week they will go psycho too? All Im saying is you never know who is going to do what and if people will look at hmong people in the area and have some kind of gut feeling then let them have it, who knows what their intentions or anyones intentions are in this world. Its just easier to stereotype when it affects you this way...
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I don't understand what his race has to do with this. If a white guy kills some one, people don't say, some white guy killed some one. Some of you (and the media) need to watch how you word things.
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I never said anything about hmong people being bad... I dont think race has to do with it either... considering he is a US citizen for what 20+ years? Im just saying people will watch or be more cautious especially in the immediate area of north west WI.
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WI is a mainly blue-collar state, doesn't mean there aren't exceptions.

P.S. Stop taking offense to everything, more than half my family is from WI.
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I live in WI right now, and most people can go to hell (really bad drivers)
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Old 11-30-2004   #50
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here is a link to the criminal complaint, read all of this and i think this will change all of your minds on this case!!!


http://www.doj.state.wi.us/news/COMPLAINT.pdf
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I live in WI right now, and most people can go to hell (really bad drivers)
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Haha! really bad drivers... That's not even funny. I used to live in Burnville and drove to Old Shakopee Road every day to get to work. I always saw a wreck it seems. If i wasn't seeing a wreck i was hearing it on KDWB's traffic report of how traffic was backed up because of some idiot who caused a wreck. I listen to the scanner at night when i'm bored. This past Friday when we had that storm, i bet 3 or 4 of the 8+ people that went in the ditch(our county) were Minnesota 10-28's. There is bad drivers in EVERY state.

On another note, I don't think that race has anything to do with this either. The majority of the U.S. population is white so when something happens on the news involving a white person, wouldn't it be kind of awkward saying a U.S. white person did..... ?? I also don't think that the media is making too much of this either. Look at the friggin Scott Peterson trial. He killed less people and that was on all the time.

Stuff like this shouldn't happen period, but when it happens in a small community, you can't understand the ramifications that it does. Not that the twin cities are a huge crime area, but unless a shooting happens at your next door neighbors house, you tend to forget about it. When it happens in a small community of 500 people, that never leaves you. I don't hunt but both my brothers hunt and now i'm permanently affected by this. Just like 9/11. I've been on a plane once since and i will admit that when i got on that plane, the first thing i did was look around to see who was among me. A permanent scar shown.
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Old 11-30-2004   #52
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here is a link to the criminal complaint, read all of this and i think this will change all of your minds on this case!!!


http://www.doj.state.wi.us/news/COMPLAINT.pdf
Maybe its just me, but you have to be pretty stupid to yell, swear, and make racial slurs towards anyone with a gun...especially when that person is out-numbered (i.e. panic).
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SKS or not, all guns that aren't meant origionally for hunting aminals should be banned.


You're way off topic, but I will say that if he were using a "real" hunting weapon with a round designed to take down deer, there would be 8 dead. Not 6 dead and 2 wounded. And I'm going to take a guess that the people he killed were shot more than once.
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You're way off topic, but I will say that if he were using a "real" hunting weapon with a round designed to take down deer, there would be 8 dead. Not 6 dead and 2 wounded. And I'm going to take a guess that the people he killed were shot more than once.
Yah. Most of them were shot multiple times.
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CRAP! our gas just went up 5 cents to 1.97/gallson 87 oct. Probably funding those dam lawyers now! Bastards.
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Those victims would be in peices if the guy had a 30-6 (pretty normal deer hunting gun).
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My opinion on this whole issue is that I think that Vang heard the hunters say they are going to call the police. And he weighed his options thinking that he might get caught for other crimes or just get in trouble in general. As well as feeling cornered and threatened. There is no doubt in my mind that the hunters didn't use there best judement in the way that they approached Vang. But I don't think the hunters fired the first shot. Did any of you here the recent news? That four out of the six dead were shot in the back. All of them atleast twice and some as much as four times? So if Vang was just defending himself, why the hell is he shooting people that are running away. I think that after he shot the first two people, everybody else just turns into a witness. Which in his mind at that point is someone who will lead to his capture. So in turn he just shoots everybody he can hoping to kill them. Some people say that Vang was shooting them in the back because he thought that they were running to their ATVs to get more guns. Come on Vang you dumbshit thats about as dumb as you saying that one of the hunters started shooting their own friends. What a dumbfuck.

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And for his punishment. Some big fucking dude in prison will be shooting something on his back for a change, and he would wish that it was a bullet. And he will deserve every bit abuse he gets.
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Craig-- couldn't agree with you more.

Our tax dollars will fund someone that murdered 6 people, to sit in prison. Come on, something is wrong with that.
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SKS or not, all guns that aren't meant origionally for hunting aminals should be banned.

How wrong you are.
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all i have to say is read the the link i put down it is mostly his statements and he can't plea insainity he said this morning that he is not insaine!!!
here it is agian

http://www.doj.state.wi.us/news/COMPLAINT.pdf

read it all!!
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