01-28-2013
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#41
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
I disagree about it being built for TX2k14 only then part it out. That might be the initial goal, but I think it'd be fun to also take it to other events such as PG, Shootout, Cookout, etc.
As for your bullets, yup pretty much agree with all that. One thing is I'm a thrifty mofo so I'd be also looking to not overspend, and spend money wisely. For example for the turbo if someone prefers a $2k FP 80lb/min turbo, I'd much prefer a BW S366 for under $800.
1Gb would be nice, but really price and availability would dictate that I think. If a 1Ga, or a Colt hatchback popped up for the right price in the right condition, I would rock that.
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
I was just thinking build it for TX2k14, then part it out when finished. If we did it by a parts donation, then once finished people take their parts back. If parts break, well.. that's racing.
As stated, the hardest thing about something like this is the people management.
We've all been around these cars for a long time, and everyone has a lot of passion as to what their ultimate setup would be. For this to work, I think you would have to micro focus the intent of the vehicle to one specific function.... one ultimate goal. Broadening the scope allows for too many options and possibilities for debate.
That being said, let's try this... If a car was constructed for the sole purpose of attending TX2014 with the intent of getting rowdy with the big boys *with a realistic budget* what would you build -and why?
[This would be an idea of my setup]
- FWD 1Gb with toenail to retain drag coefficient
- Automatic Transmission
- Enough turbo to supply 70-80 lbs/min... T4, straight side exit exhaust
- Enough wheel and tire to hook at 60 MPH
- Low enough cylinder pressure to keep axles, ring lands, head gaskets and studs happy
- Engine screwed together to survive 9500 RPM
- Airflow parts to be efficient at this RPM
- Enough brake pad to brake boost and slow down from high speed
- Curb weight no more than 2150lbs dry
Discuss...
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01-28-2013
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#42
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formerly ecoli
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
Start a Chumpcar team...
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01-28-2013
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#43
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immune from paybans
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
I would go next year, the vette would have been perfect for this haha, even though it would be on the slow side of the spectrum.
Wish I still lived up there to go in on the group drag car, sounds a lot like the chumpcar teams except drag racing.
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01-28-2013
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#44
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Linwood, MN
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
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01-28-2013
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#45
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halon
I disagree about it being built for TX2k14 only then part it out. That might be the initial goal, but I think it'd be fun to also take it to other events such as PG, Shootout, Cookout, etc.
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What happens after 2k14 is certainly open for conversation. I just want to make sure people are focused enough on a specific goal can collectively accomplish that, before mentally moving on with scope.
(My mind unfortunately works in absolutes, and what would make for an awesome HWY monster, is less optimal for other formats of motor sports)
The BW would be the turbo of choice for numerous reasons... 366 looks nice... not sure if the 400 series would fit without an exotic manifold.
I've got to get Andrew7g's Summit hatch out of my shed before I can take on any more projects.
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01-28-2013
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#46
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
If this doesn't actually materialize and people still want a site sponsered car for 2k14 I would probably be willing to put my car up for 5 days of being used for the site. It's basically everything you guys are talking about except its a manual and awd. Just a thought lol
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01-28-2013
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#47
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
Yeah, I have my own project as well I'm working on. I think it could be fun though with the right group of smart guys with similar mindset/goals in mind.
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showthr...ighlight=shell
If that shell is what it appears to be, that's a helluva clean shell for $300 
Last edited by Halon; 01-28-2013 at 04:48 PM..
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01-28-2013
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#48
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halon
Yeah, I have my own project as well I'm working on. I think it could be fun though with the right group of smart guys with similar mindset/goals in mind.
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showthr...ighlight=shell
If that shell is what it appears to be, that's a helluva clean shell for $300 
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Finding the right group of people will be the hard part lol. If you let too many people in on it then everyone who throws in $50 will think they have equal ownership
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01-28-2013
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#49
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Join Date: May 2005
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
sure is plus hes got the auto stuff to but its awd
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01-28-2013
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#50
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
If the shell is clean and cheap enough is awd really that much of a deal breaker?? I mean from the sounds of it based on the goals for the car even if it is a frumroll machine it sounds like awd wouldn't hurt
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01-28-2013
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#51
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
If it's the shell I think it is, it's my old shell. Beautiful rust free Arizona 1g. Well at least rust free when I sold it a couple years ago.
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01-28-2013
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#52
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
No AWD is not a deal breaker but does add alot of extra weight.
Yeah, I knew that was your old shell.
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01-28-2013
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#53
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
I say go for it! lol. I have a useable garret gt4294 I can donate to said car!
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01-28-2013
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#54
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
uh oh he is getting sentimental!!
Remember you don't have to buy everything new, I'd like to help where I can but I don't care for any ownership maybe just a drive or ride when its done.
There are plenty of big turbos for under $800.
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01-28-2013
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#55
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Crash Course Racing
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
A Scummit or Colt hatch would be the ticket.
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01-28-2013
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#56
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
AWD wouldn't be a deal breaker, but I personally have been dreaming of building a FWD 1g Auto monster for a few years now, keeps things lighter and simpler and kind of a fun challenge. Could you just swap in a rear subframe from a fwd?
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01-28-2013
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#57
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Mitsus for days!
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
Why not an AWD swapped Colt hatch?
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01-28-2013
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#58
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halon
I personally have been dreaming of building a FWD 1g Auto monster for a few years now, keeps things lighter and simpler
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As have I. The Colt is a bit lighter no doubt, but there is some trade off in high speed aerodynamics and stability.
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01-28-2013
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#59
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halon
AWD wouldn't be a deal breaker, but I personally have been dreaming of building a FWD 1g Auto monster for a few years now, keeps things lighter and simpler and kind of a fun challenge. Could you just swap in a rear subframe from a fwd?
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yeah that would be pretty cool! I have the perfect turbo for said car
if its on a budget 
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01-28-2013
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#60
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Re: wtf is tx 2k13?
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4seasons69
yeah that would be pretty cool! I have the perfect turbo for said car
if its on a budget 
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Lol, quite true you do.
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