looking at Evo's. Few Questions. - Page 3

**Kracka** · 08-22-2012

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Originally Posted by timschot

If you are staying stock turbo and run out of fuel, it's easy to address anyway. It takes 30 minutes to swap and hardwire a better fuel pump and injectors are right in the front of the engine bay if you're going e85.

No reason to hardwire an aftermarket fuel pump until that pump, and any larger single pump, can't support your requirements. The 9/12v switch is a nice feature to keep the pump from overrunning the stock FPR at idle/cruise, and also helps keep the pump quieter and cooler, which should ultimately lead to a longer lifespan.

timschot · 08-22-2012

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Originally Posted by Kracka

No reason to hardwire an aftermarket fuel pump until that pump, and any larger single pump, can't support your requirements. The 9/12v switch is a nice feature to keep the pump from overrunning the stock FPR at idle/cruise, and also helps keep the pump quieter and cooler, which should ultimately lead to a longer lifespan.

Good points. I am on a hardwired dw300 running e85 though and have not had idle or cruise issues, but I've only done 4-5 tanks so far and have no idea what my fuel pressure is at. I have heard of people pushing return lines off fittings, but mostly on pump. The car is getting another round of mods shortly though, so I might need to revisit.

**JET** · 08-22-2012

Wow, what a great thread! Lots of good stuff in here, thanks for the smiles on a hump day morning

An Evo being better handling than an Elise or Cayman/Boxster... Can't make that up!

turbotalon1g · 08-22-2012

You guys are crazy, evos are the best.

Calibers are street racing legends!

**Murlo26** · 08-22-2012

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

You guys are crazy, evos are the best.

Calibers are street racing legends!

+1

sport the war · 08-22-2012

Is anyone currently running a SST with 350+ WHP?

**Kracka** · 08-22-2012

Tons down here, including my buddy I mentioned hitting 466 so far, with more to come later his week. He has the AMS cooler and SSP600 discs/steels/seals.

sport the war · 08-22-2012

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Originally Posted by Kracka

Tons down here, including my buddy I mentioned hitting 466 so far, with more to come later his week. He has the AMS cooler and SSP600 discs/steels/seals.

what does it run for a decent cooler??

**Kracka** · 08-23-2012

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Originally Posted by sport the war

what does it run for a decent cooler??

http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...ooler-Kit.html

turbotalon1g · 08-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Kracka

http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...ooler-Kit.html

Holy fuckin noob tax, you could piece that together for less than 1/2.

**Kracka** · 08-23-2012

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

Holy fuckin noob tax, you could piece that together for less than 1/2.

So why don't you get into the Evo X MR SST cooler business? I guarantee you that you won't be able to put together an equivalent kit for half that.

**scheides** · 08-23-2012

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

Holy fuckin noob tax, you could piece that together for less than 1/2.

Noob tax or a company that probably tested dozens of coolers and chose this as the best for one reason or another, then has the balls to sell it and stand behind it?

Reminder: sometimes you come across as very arrogant on the internet

**Tachyon** · 08-22-2012

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Originally Posted by Kracka

Tons down here, including my buddy I mentioned hitting 466 so far, with more to come later his week. He has the AMS cooler and SSP600 discs/steels/seals.

Is that the same gentleman who you were in a little HP war with? Bigger guy.. name escapes me...

**Kracka** · 08-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Tachyon

Is that the same gentleman who you were in a little HP war with? Bigger guy.. name escapes me...

Yes sir, Tom/Supraboy1. I'm currently winning the pump gas war (416 vs. 409), but I still need to get an E85 tune.

**Tachyon** · 08-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Kracka

I'm currently winning the pump gas war (416 vs. 409), but I still need to get an E85 tune.

Atta boy

Ps. I'll never tire of the perpetual holy war that goes on here... ever

turbotalon1g · 08-23-2012

I didn't go to school for that and I don't care too. If businesses were that simple everyone would have their own business.

But thanks for caring.

**Halon** · 08-23-2012

Here's the coolers I planned to use to piece a kit together for my Envoy (M7B). Good coolers. Could definately piece together a kit for well under $200 I'd think.

http://www.transmissioncoolers.us/ca...ol-engine.html

**Kracka** · 08-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Halon

Here's the coolers I planned to use to piece a kit together for my Envoy (M7B). Good coolers. Could definately piece together a kit for well under $200 I'd think.

http://www.transmissioncoolers.us/ca...ol-engine.html

Great, now add in hose, fittings, hardware, brackets, a fan, fan shroud, and fan wiring, plus the R&D time to fit, install, and test.

**Halon** · 08-23-2012

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Originally Posted by Kracka

Great, now add in hose, fittings, hardware, brackets, a fan, fan shroud, and fan wiring, plus the R&D time to fit, install, and test.

I simply shared a link to the cooler I plan to use, is there an issue here?

**Murlo26** · 08-23-2012

The "noob" tax is RnD cost...it always has been. Some companies piece together something and price it for the market without doing much research but AMS is one of the few that track tests everything.

Are they expensive, hell yes...and yes you could piece one together for a lot less sure. But like Scheides said its for the company that supports the product.

Time is also money, getting your own kit to work properly takes time and something that could potentially take 8-16 hours or more of your time and multiple trips to the hardware store, well suddenly 500 doesn't seem so bad. Some people value their time more than others, while some prefer to do it themselves as they get joy from it.

I personally like AMS because they are the ones that figure everything out then everyone else copies them.