All Serious Minds Please Reply Inside.

[john]

I also think we should bring back the rides catagory and continue the ride of the month. It would be nice to restrict non-dsm owners from posting in the tech forums but how would this be accomplished? how would we prove if someone had a dsm? Would I just need to find a pic of one off the internet (say it is mine) or would I need to meet someone in person on here and show them it? I think that is too much work. Maybe we can have a newbie tech with a 100 post limit. We could stickie some of the most asked questions and leave them up as our own faqs. We could also include a non-dsm tech if we want to cater to some other groups (3s, 0g, 3g).

[sideways motorsports]

I agree with moderating a little closer. If you all think that help is needed I would volunteer.

I dont think that throwing an 18+ on the site will do much of anything, as you ocant really regulate that very well.

I also agree with the member activities need to get moving. Ride of the month etc. Here is a new one Picture/video of your ride of the month (action shots or whatever) this could be interesting with all of the picture editors we have in here.

Club vs. Site I think everyone already acts as if it were a club (everyone that is frequently involved on site or otherwise) I dont think that the title would do anything. But DSMStyle Wear would be cool.

I also believe in throwing down the hammer when someone gets out of control on site. I dont think it means you have to nit pick at every little thing but a closer watch into the "history" of an individuals posts and set up the ground rules where everyone knows what they are. Biggest thing here is for people who might be uncomfortalbe or think they are being harrassed.

I would also support some type of restriction for the tech sections. Although this may throw me into a "non-expert" catagory I feel it would keep posts on topic.

Sorry Allan for being one of the "I dont give a Fuck, Fucks" who didnt post the first time I went through all of this.

Later all,

Dan Moore

[Enes]

i vote we lock everything down, so that we can't even get in...
then it will be clean and no stupid threads... or any at all...

Its interweb, about the only thing you could do is moderate it more....
I moderated 2 bigger boards for almost 2 years.. 1500+members very very active.... we had about 20 good mods... thats all it took.. choose mods on frequency they visit the site and their IQ level. do not give mod level to "he's my friend so he has to"

1. how often visiting site
2. how smart they are
3. won't choose sides stay impartial
4. have cool head no power trips
5. have at least IQ of 50 (rules me out)
6. i forgot, i'm too stupid..


-E

[Enes]

ok, i just owned myself with #2 and #5 and #6 just proves it..

-E

[ABV]

I agree on the moderation part. If we just buckle down a little more we can take care of alot of the garbage. And on that note, I'm not sure if I'm the best candidate for a mod. Sure it's cool being able to crack the whip when it's needed, but quite frankly, I think there are other people on this site that would be better suited for the job than me. I haven't really worked on a DSM in while, and there are people on here who are much more knowledgable than I, that could help out with more of the DSM related issues.

As far as this being a DSM/3S/3G only club. I will leave that up to someone else. For the record, I wouldn't be upset if I was only limited to a newbie/off topic part of the site. Honestly, the off topic and general events areas are about the only places I visit and participate in anyway. If you decide to do something like this, then it wouldn't be fair for me to be the only non dsm owner allowed on the private side, and I would be ok with that. Unless I bought an EVO.

I guess the only thing beyond that, that really bugs me, is when threads get hijacked. It's just really annoying.

I guess at the end of the day, its just a car, and this is just a car forum. Some people take a lot of stock in what goes on here, but for me, there is a life outside of cars.

I agree with Mark, what it all comes down to is that this is a site for cars. We're all here because we love cars, mainly DSMs. I think that if we kick out people who don't own a dsm, then why bother having this site. We'd just turn people away cause we're telling them, that we think we're better because we have a dsm and your car isn't a dsm. Isn't the point of life to meet different people and broaden our horizons?

I'm also going to retract my agreement with the 18+ for the same reason, why not let them share their points of view as well?
The newbie tech forum is a great idea, as well as the idea to have FAQ's.

I still like the idea of more club atmosphere. Anything that would bring more pride into the members of this site, anything that would make them more aware that this is their site and they need to take care of it and respect it.

~Kat

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally posted by 1ViciousGSX@Apr 18 2004, 08:13 PM
I think you should only be given full posting access to the site if you own a DSM, period. That would include E/L/T 1g, 2g, 3g, EVO, Galant, or GVR4. Restricted access for wanna be's DSM'ers.

I think some people mis-understood what I said. I think the in-depth forums should be restricted to DSM owners, all other forums would be open to anybody. Would you want technical advise from someone who never owned or worked on a DSM or has no technical experience?

Some people say they would like more of a "club" atmosphere. But to be a club you have to set standards for who gets in and who doesn't. I would think owning a DSM or working in the field on them (not an oil change shop, but more along the lines of QPR, Elite, etc.) would need to be a requirement. To allow everybody and their brother/sister in takes away from it being more of a club and turns it into a webpage/forum, which it is now

I'm fine with it either way, just trying to make my comments clearer.

1ViciousGSX

[FattyBoomBatty]

i think it should be open to people who don't drive dsm's. hey, i haven't talked trash to anyone since i got banned, so why block me now?

this is a good place to get info on local shops and many of the members are very nice and let you borrow stuff (matt D, 520Talon), i don't see why you would block anyone for being under 18.. what is this a titty bar?

[SlimStyleDSM]

I do not understand the point of locking the tech forums. How are people that are new to DSM's supposed to learn things about them. Granted they cannot add any tips or advice, but they learn from reading other peoples questions and answers posted or at least i have. I believe a long time ago Allan even stated that this is a good place to learn about our cars for new owners. I agree with the newbie tech forum so they do not fill the more advanced areas, but locking out the less experienced would suck if you were one of them who seriously wants to learn.
I can also semi-understand keeping it to the DSM and type car owners. Yes it does suck for some, but at the same time as much as i'd love to be a girl scout...i dont see that happening either. Typically the people that have dsm's or seriously want to own one will be more of a positive aspect to the site because they do hold serious interest in the major topic at hand...DSM's.
I see the age piece as an added pain in the ass for the mods here to try and enforce that.
I would also love to see the car of the month etc area's back from the old site. That was a great way to learn about the type of car community that was here.
Style.com gear would be way cool...I'd like to see that also.

Ok, I'm done
Dave

[dumb_ricer]

Originally posted by DSMGirl@Apr 18 2004, 05:21 PM
- Make the site 18+
In a way I agree and in a way I don't with this. What if 18+ can sign up and be members, and anyone younger has to be approved? This way you can regulate the younger members a bit most easily. Maybe you could make then PM an Admin and explain why they want to join.

JET's idea about DSM's only makes me a little nervous though, I don't have a DSM as of now so that would kick me off and I want to stay.
You can disregard these if you want or use them.
~Kat

I love the idea of making the pre 18 year olds a invite only type thing. I would hate not being able to be on the site because I'm 17 years old.

Also I dont like the DSM only thing either as I don't own a DSM and quite frankly I do not plan on it, but I think non-DSM'ers should be able to visit here too. I seem to know quite a bit about DSM's for not owning one, Ive just heard all the problems and how to fix them.


I say make the banning more too, like a 2 strikes your out for a month type deal, it would keep the bullshit down a lot.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally posted by SlimStyleDSM@Apr 19 2004, 08:48 PM
I do not understand the point of locking the tech forums. How are people that are new to DSM's supposed to learn things about them. Granted they cannot add any tips or advice, but they learn from reading other peoples questions and answers posted or at least i have. I believe a long time ago Allan even stated that this is a good place to learn about our cars for new owners.

Everybody forgets that restricting a forum doesn't mean it can't be read, just that you can not post to it. If somebody comes up with an answer they feel is going to help the thread, it can be PM'ed to a moderator/lead who can throw it in and give the sender full credit for it if they are correct.

[SlimStyleDSM]

Ahhh i see said the dumb kid :bowdown:

[520Talon]

I just scanned through the first couple pages and I didn't want to be one of those people who just read and not posted that AJ doesn't like . I kind of like the way this site is. I am also on the MNAudi page. You have to go through this lame kind of application thing. It actually took me a couple of months between signing up and actually getting my sign in. I can assure you that kind of locking doesn't improve the amount of tech, it only keeps people away who could otherwise help. I understand the flipside is having smart asses, but this site isn't the worst for that either.

Stupid people on forums are like nudity on TV. Just don't look at it or skip by if you don't like it. It ends up being the one ruins it for all situation when you try to make stereo type rules (like no one under 18 or no boobies).

That being said, I truely enjoy this site and all of the members I have met from it. Also vote for boobies on TV in 2004 :cheers: .

[howslowcanyougo]

IMHO.....

Guess I don't see why all the problems, maybe just some folks with thier elitest ego's getting bent out of shape?

And still others seem way over sensitive, and like all stuck up?

This is all just suppose to be FUN above all else right, or is it a science class at the U?

Hell ya all just need to get naked, get drunk, get laid, relax, CHILL OUT on each other a bit now, and at least try to get along !!!

Lifes just too Short for all that baby game bullshit friends, at least mine is, as I am OLD!

Damm it's spring, Get out and <boost your brains out> ENJOY IT, I'm gonna!

:rant

I like the site just the way it is now, OPEN to all to read and write.

Just my 2 cents.......


Howie:

[AJ]

I want to thank everyone for their replies. It will help alot when Jana and I really get a chance to sit down and re vamp the site a bit. In addition to skins and other fun tricks we are adding here, everything else will be looked at as well.

But please if there is anymore ideas, please keep them comming.

*** also as a quick plug please remember the Fargo event at the end of the month. See the general events sections. Do not reply here! ***

[Shane@DBPerformance]

I agree with what Jana had said. The board seems pretty fine to me. Sometimes people do their stupid 1 line joke replies with their friends that aren't needed, maybe we just need to deleted more of the BS replies in unappropriate forums like tech and the for sale area. However, any CVD comment is usually gold and shouldn't be messed with.

[ACRucrazy]

I dont think the DSM only idea is very good, if you want me to leave i will

Maybe approval on registration, like a quick explanation of why you want to register..
-How did you find us?
-Who do you know on this site?
-What is the reason you want to register?

[Enes]

Originally posted by SlimStyleDSM@Apr 19 2004, 10:23 PM
Ahhh i see said the dumb kid :bowdown:

its more like.. ahh i see says the blind kid!

- Make the site 18+
-Might suck for some of the younger folks who are mature enough to be civil.

- Make all Tech part of restircted access
-Adv. Tech could possibly be locked, but basic tech should be open

- Make advanced tech part of restircted access
-Look above

- Make everything but the parking lot Restricted access
-I dont like this idea

- Make the site more of a club, t-shirts and items
-Sounds good to me, make sure you get hoodies, I love hoodies

- Add some more moderators
-As long as the current mods become a little strickter and are activly veiwing the site I see no need for new ones, but to each their own

- Don't be afraid to ban/suspend members more often
-I think more suspension is a very good idea

- Add some more fun activites to the site
-Not sure what kind of "activites" but I'm game

- Possible changes or additions to rules
-Sure

[Darth_Laser]

I think making the site more like a club is a dominant idea... Basically because i have wanted to be part of a car club for quite some time and... nobody wants me and my laser... :headache:
As for making it 18 plus that may be a plus but here's the thing, i am 18 but i still really don't know jack about the cars... thats why i joined to get help and pass on the very little knowledge i do have. So overall i think we should make it 18 plus unless the person does have a DSM or they do have an abundace of info to share.
Lastly as for making different parts restricted i am not too large of a fan of that, i assume by restricted you mean only people that know what they are talking about and that just aint me and i still want to be involved and this is the best way i have found soo far except taking my car apart and not knowing how to put it back together.
Take it for what you will, it's just my two pennies!
Andy