Hydrogen Generator for my daily car - Page 3

joesushi · 05-24-2006

i'm just posting this so i can sit back and watch some more fighting in this thread.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...CF897F1C96.htm

tim · 05-24-2006

How is this coming btw? Any progress?

Onefast99gsx · 05-25-2006

I will be installing it this weekend. I usually don't get into deep projects during the week. Not that this is deep or anything.

joesushi- awesome link! I don't know what the deal is with the skepticals. Personally, if you're cool with paying $3.50 for a gallon of gas, then do it, This thread isn't for you.

joesushi · 05-25-2006

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...joesushi- Personally, if you're cool with paying $3.50 for a gallon of gas, then do it, This thread isn't for you.

If that very last sentence was towards me. It's pathetic we all still HAVE to use gasoline to get around. That is if your work isnt within biking distance and you dont live where there is snow and negative temp for a good portion of the year. Altho i don't know much about what you are attempting to do, but keep me posted.

Black97civic · 05-25-2006

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joesushi- awesome link! I don't know what the deal is with the skepticals. Personally, if you're cool with paying $3.50 for a gallon of gas, then do it, This thread isn't for you.

Yeah, nobody is saying that it is impossible to make a hydrogen powered car, but some $100 piece of ebay junk isn't gonna cut it.

Also, notice how the news clip didn't state how the water was broken down?? Plug it into a wall, solar power, who knows? Just keep in mind there is no such thing as free power.

joesushi · 05-25-2006

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Just keep in mind there is no such thing as free power.

http://www.iter.org/

True for the U.S., but not for France, Germany, and Japan. Although, this obviously will fail, we've all seen spiderman....

**JET** · 05-25-2006

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Originally Posted by joesushi

http://www.iter.org/

True for the U.S., but not for France, Germany, and Japan. Although, this obviously will fail, we've all seen spiderman....

Didn't you notice the last country on the list? Yep, the USA. I read about this a while back. They put it in France cuz they were whining about it. The US is paying the largest amount, France was 3rd I think.

Black97civic · 05-25-2006

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Originally Posted by joesushi

http://www.iter.org/

True for the U.S., but not for France, Germany, and Japan. Although, this obviously will fail, we've all seen spiderman....

Ok, keep completely missing my point.

What powered that dune buggy. Water, I know, but what provided the energy to break down that water?? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't an experimental fusion power plant...

Gravy · 05-25-2006

If he could break the water down in a small go-cart. I think we could do with in a car.

I'm just gona let you all argue over this. It probably won't be in the 2006 year, but when i get a hydrogen car, i'll let everyone know. I've seen it working, saw it drive off. But i lack the funds to do it.

joesushi · 05-25-2006

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Ok, keep completely missing my point.

What powered that dune buggy. Water, I know, but what provided the energy to break down that water?? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't an experimental fusion power plant...

Well, it could have been! Yeah it was a little bit off topic. sorry.

As for Jet's response, there certainly aren't any plans for the US to get one. The frenchies are gonna have one up on us, if and when they get it going.

**JET** · 05-25-2006

Alright, hydrogen has 3 times the energy stored in it (by weight) compared to gas. The molecular weight of oxygen is 16 and hydrogen is 1. H2O therefore weighs 18. The hydrogen in it weighs 2. So 2/18 = 11%.

Now we know that 11% of the weight of water is hydrogen. You have about a 2 liters (roughly a quart) of water in the storage unit and that is probably being generous. 1/2 gallon of water weighs 4.15lbs times 11% and you have .46 lbs of hydrogen in your storage tank.

We know that hydrogen has 3 times the heat output of gas, so you have the equivalent of 1.38 lbs of gas or just under 1/4 gallon of gasoline. So to see a 5% rise in MPG, you would have to fill your water tank for every 5 gallons of gas you burnt. That is if your car was setup to burn hydrogen. The problem is that hydrogen burns very quickly and needs to be ignited at TDC or later so you don't run into pre-ignition and just blow it back out the valves. Your car doesn't do this.

Need any more reason why there are skeptics who know it won't work?

**Halon** · 05-25-2006

Ya, let's base our knowledge of fusion reaction off a hollywood flick? In REALITY, there is a LOT involved with created and sustaining a fusion reaction. If something goes wrong, the reaction will just fail. It won't balloon out of control like it did in your movie, it will just die. Plus that plant has a ways to go. It's a test facility, and who knows when it will actually be operational. For now we just have the good ol fission plants

SchuttsR1 · 05-25-2006

Honda has a hydrogen cell concept car that they plan on producing. You can only lease them now, and thats only for a select few in california, and the price of the car is 150k.

Good luck on your flux capacitor

Gravy · 05-25-2006

The Geo with a custom build reaction chamber and a new electrical system(120 watt alternator) custom build amp and the correct workings of the system he had a fully operational system powering a 3 cylinder Geo Metro. Mind you gents, we arn't talking about a drag car. Just something to get from point A, to point B. For those that have been in the DSM world for too long, that means no boost.

tim · 05-25-2006

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Honda has a hydrogen cell concept car that they plan on producing. You can only lease them now, and thats only for a select few in california, and the price of the car is 150k.

And in DC.

**1ViciousGSX** · 06-11-2007

Sooooo, after a years worth of tweaking and fine tuning, how's this working out for you?

Onefast99gsx · 06-12-2007

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Sooooo, after a years worth of tweaking and fine tuning, how's this working out for you?

Well the asshole who is selling them on ebay is making a killing on them. Don't waste your time and importantly, don't waste your money. It DOES clearly produce hydrogen but doesn't by any means produce enough liters per minute to make any substantial increases. It's junk.

You can't warn any of the bidders in the auction listings because the guy lists the bidders as private. He has like 600+ feeback ONLY because he does unrelated business also. I think he sells cycle parts.

So yeah.... I wasted my $100. Live & Learn

**Halon** · 06-11-2007

http://www.switch2hydrogen.com/

tpunx99GSX · 06-11-2007

Pretty cool site, i wonder who they are in a legal battle with?

Matt D. · 06-12-2007

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Pretty cool site, i wonder who they are in a legal battle with?

www.learn2read.com

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The legal action is due to the actions of the CPSC (Consumer Product Safety Commission) attempting to remove the necessary chemicals used in this system from public use.