beaterX, 2.5 turns of the wga

[goodhart]

Originally Posted by Kracka

I am fully aware of what Bryan and Chad have done and do, my guess is I knew who they were long before you decided to even "get into" cars. Goodhart is right, my point is that you have zero first-hand experience and can do nothing more than attempt to understand information you've read online and regurgitate it. I also know that Scheides cross-posts a lot of his stuff on the national forums and if you'll notice I have as well. What's your point? You should also take a look at how similar ECU-controlled boost and any off the shelf pre-packed electronic boost controller is. Here is another question for you: Have you ever actually used a MBC? EBC? ECU-controlled boost? I'm talking actually used, not just drive a car with one. Have you ever installed them? Do you even know how they work?

From a guy that doesn't change his own oil? MLomker, I'm sorry bro but I would be surprised you've even gapped a sparkplug and installed them before, let alone install or even so much as turned the knob on a MBC. I'm just sayin it how it is man. I don't type anything that I wouldn't tell a person straight to their face.

Also, stop copy-pasting what others post on EvoM and the X forums as if you really know and/or have experience with any of what you are talking about. It is very misleading to others. They may actually think you know your ass from a hole in the ground.

Originally Posted by Kevin 1G Drummer

What is so magical about a X that it needs an EBC?

but OMG it is the unicorn of all cars!! You couldn't possibly use technology from lowly little cars built in the 1990's on this car sent from god, that no average man dare work on himself.





/of my opinion

[scheides]

LOL this thread kinda 'sploded into a whole secondary discussion about mbc's vs ebc's...end of the day (as I said before) this mod would work with either. People are obviously pretty passionate about which form of boost control is 'better' and and of the day, it is 100% up to how well the system you have works with the setup you have, end of story. I have played with MBC's and EBC's on dsms, evos, vw's, audis, and porsches, and guess what: you use what works best for YOU on your car.

I'll play with the ecu-boost on this thing soon enough, don't worry

[scheides]

Originally Posted by simulatedwood

Scheides,
Awesome work! MBC, EBC, Boost control, smoosh control, the boost looks excellent what ever it is.
Mine is attached for comparison purposes this is bone stock tune vs RS Motors tune, yours looks great in comparison for the boost spike.

And you with your 300whp factory freak gah! Stop making me jealous! When I actually get a full tune on this thing, we'll see what it'll do. For now, its a good solid basemap on a car that needs TLC all around, including under the hood

[FattyBoomBatty]

Ah, it reminds me of the good old days of last month. Tempers flared, rank was pulled and people got burned.

I know it's about the furthest mitsu from an X (save for being the OG donkey kong of mitsus), but my boost is controlled with a greddy profect b-spec 2, and it's really cool when the gain isn't set too high, aha.

[turbotalon1g]

^Profec B FTL, is flakey when running man boost levels.

[mdost03]

I like my EBC, "Boost Box" for the SRT4. Works awesome, boost by gear, rpm, a lot of tweaking you can do, and uses the stock wastegate solenoid. Would never think of going back to a MBC on this car.

[Swifty1638]

Originally Posted by Kevin 1G Drummer

What is so magical about a X that it needs an EBC?

The same kinda magic that requires a OEM BOV from Japan yo!

I've USED, INSTALLED, and messed with all boost controllers, except ECU-controlled boost control solenoids, like AEM EMS can use. From my experience, MBC's are the most straight forward, easiest installed, easiest set-up, most reliable (depending which brand you get) and best controlling of all boost controllers. Electronic ones are only as good as the software that drives them, and as we have all seen, sometimes..the shit just doesn't work.

[mlomker]

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty

Tempers flared, rank was pulled and people got burned.

Let's see if Kracka bans me this time for disagreeing with him.

Originally Posted by goodhart

From a guy that doesn't change his own oil? MLomker, I'm sorry bro but I would be surprised you've even gapped a sparkplug and installed them before, let alone install or even so much as turned the knob on a MBC.

This is my first turbo car. As mentioned in my own thread, I was a garage peon for 2 years out of high school...oil changes, spark plugs, tires, hoses, belts...basic stuff. I'd do all of that stuff if I had a garage but I don't. Hauling that crap over to a friend's house is too much trouble for what it costs.

[Swifty1638]

Sorry, but driving to a friends house to change your plugs, tires, wheels, hoses or belts is NOT more trouble then what it's worth. We charged over $120-$240 to change fucking spark plugs at the dealerships, you telling me shoving a box of 4 plugs in your car, and driving a few miles to a friends house to change them is trouble?! What gas are you running that costs you more then that to drive somewhere? VP Import 120!?

[turbotalon1g]

I have changed all those items he listed but tires on the side of the road before or parking lots.
If someone needs space I usually have a driveway spot or can clear a garage spot for big work.

[scheides]

LOL GOOD GOD guys grow up! Enough about MBC's, EBC's, and where to change your oil, I don't give a shit! I tightened the wga on my mostly stock car and picked up a few whp. Neat eh? The end. :P

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by mlomker

If you're talking about standalone EBC then we're talking about different things. An EBCS is a replacement boost control solenoid, controlled by the ECU (aka 3-port). I certainly wouldn't install a standalone on an Evo.

Why not? It controls boost just the same, an electronically controlled solenoid. If one performed better than the other then I see no reason to use it.

[simulatedwood]

Boost control discussion. Reminds me of the ford vs Chevy discussions...lol

BTW.. x's are the suck in Autocross.. right Matt?

[simulatedwood]

Double post ..sorry

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by simulatedwood

BTW.. x's are the suck in Autocross.. right Matt?

I'm never driving one again.

Okay, maybe...

[turbotalon1g]

Originally Posted by scheides

LOL GOOD GOD guys grow up! Enough about MBC's, EBC's, and where to change your oil, I don't give a shit! I tightened the wga on my mostly stock car and picked up a few whp. Neat eh? The end. :P

I seen your tightened wga and raise you a pulled WG line and picked up an buttload of whp. Pretty badass eh? thats I roll. Fin.

[Swifty1638]

^ true story. WG does all the action.