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beaterX, 2.5 turns of the wga
Just did this on my new beaterX! 2.5 turns in on the wga and 1/3 down on the MBC yielded this:
http://scheides.com/misc/pics/evox/e...nk-dynojet.JPG Comparator numbers: http://scheides.com/misc/pics/evox/evoX-wgacrank.JPG Should have left the MBC alone I guess, peak did go down a tish, but with the mods on the car, 26psi peak is plenty for now: http://scheides.com/misc/pics/evox/w...st-compare.JPG Lastly, the data, for anyone that cares: http://scheides.com/misc/pics/evox/E...t-wgacrank.xls This was done on the same road, same conditions, within an hour of each other. Perfectly flat, started run in 3rd at ~2000rpm and WOT till ~7000. The car still has the rusty exhaust and stock cat in place. I put in mlomker's used aFe drop-in the other day and decided I should try this next. Arguably worth it :) |
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Very nice.
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I think you'd do better with an EBCS than an MBC and fiddling with the other parts, but if it's stuff that you already had lying around then it's good gains for cheap.
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Nothing beats a MBC for ease of use and reliability.
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Yup sticking with the mbc for now. I'll play with the ecu boost once tephra gets some of his hacks on this platform. The mbc was already on the car and the wga crank cost me 20 mins :)
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Either way, this mod isn't about MBC or BCS, its about the turbo flowing more by keeping the wastegate closed tighter; it's not holding a ton more boost anywhere, but making more power. |
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I'll also say that I only read the X forums and have never pretended to know shit about 8/9's. You'll be basted if you try to argue in favor of an MBC on a X forum. The X has a different ECU and I'm sure scheides will uncover a lot of interesting things as he continues exploring... |
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With more experience you'll learn there is quite a difference between what you read online and reality. |
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I discussed this with Kracka not too long ago, but Sport Compact Car did a test between the popular MBCs and EBCs at the time (2004 or 2005?) as to how they handled boost onset (spiking) and how they held boost throughout the RPM range. The MBCs outperformed the EBCs by having the smallest spikes at boost onset and holding boost better to redline. Granted, this was a few years ago, but the general idea between the two devices is entirely the same.
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Nice work Scheides! Gotta like making more power on a little less boost! Hows having MIVEC treating ya?
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I have used an Apexi AVC-R, Shanes MBC, and a Forge MBC, by far the best one i have used has been Shanes. The AVCR sucked ass in my opinion. EBCS FTL.
Anyways, good shit Scheides keep it coming i expect to see 500 AWHP at dyno day. or you are no longer the site admin and get your post count stricken down to 1. |
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Awesome work! MBC, EBC, Boost control, smoosh control, the boost looks excellent what ever it is. Mine is attached for comparison purposes this is bone stock tune vs RS Motors tune, yours looks great in comparison for the boost spike. |
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What he is saying is that all you are doing is regurgitating information that "newbs like Bryan @GST, Chad @CBRD" post online. You have NO real first hand experience yourself. Anyways, Looking good Scheides! I want a ride in this thing at dyno day, I never did get a ride on your VIII. :( |
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What is so magical about a X that it needs an EBC?
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