Ha ha ha Poll on immegration

[TalonFiero]

when i vieved it yesterday around 90,000 votes it was 31% 69%

[tim]

Originally Posted by Gravy

He's pro Legalizing everyone from what i hear.

Please show me where Bush says he wants to legalize all of them. I have never heard such a thing especially from a Republican president.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by tim

Please show me where Bush says he wants to legalize all of them. I have never heard such a thing especially from a Republican president.

Yeah no kidding, I call BS on this one.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by TalonFiero

when i vieved it yesterday around 90,000 votes it was 31% 69%

Currently 30/70 with 102k votes.

[Halon]

I got in an arguement with my mexican ex g/f last night from Yuma, AZ. Fuckin ridiculous. You come here, illegally, and then complain, get bent!! I'm sure there are a couple select cases of certain people who are here illegally but might deserve citizenship, but that's why we have the system we have, to weed out the leaches before they even get here.

[CVD]

I agree with all of that, but I really think that we cant even touch this issue until we make it VERY hard for them to get here in the first place. Deporting people at this stage is just pissing away tax dollars with how fast they come back in.

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

No shit, it probably costs more to get them the fuck out, and a lot of em' have probably been deported multiple times for all we know. It's like spending money on a DSM, it just breaks, and you fix it, and it breaks again, GOODBYE MONEY, and GOODBYE TAX DOLLARS; all spent on useless shit.

[Gravy]

For those that like Bush, i'm sorry, i wouldn't read on.

Originally Posted by S2kracka

Yeah no kidding, I call BS on this one.

Originally Posted by tim

Please show me where Bush says he wants to legalize all of them. I have never heard such a thing especially from a Republican president.

Originally Posted by Yahoo News

And what does the president propose to do about this? He wants to match a willing worker with employers having trouble "filling jobs that Americans won't do." And he wants to create a pathway for illegal immigrants toward "earned legalization."

Unless i'm mistaken... it's pretty clear.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpol...pologist_the_1

I can find more if you all want, but i think that says it. Bush wants to work on a program to "Legalize" the already illegal citizens to do the jobs us lazy American's wont. Suprised some of you don't pay more attention to the news BEFORE something becomes a big deal. Oh, btw bush is thinking about using nuclear weapons on Iran. So keep an eye out in the news for this in the future too.

[FattyBoomBatty]

you guys have it all wrong, do you know how long it took for me to get my Wendy's today?

this is unacceptable.

[Gravy]

LOL, so true.... let the HS drop outs work there. Walmarts around here are filling up fast.

[tim]

Originally Posted by Gravy

For those that like Bush, i'm sorry, i wouldn't read on.

Unless i'm mistaken... it's pretty clear.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpol...pologist_the_1

I can find more if you all want, but i think that says it. Bush wants to work on a program to "Legalize" the already illegal citizens to do the jobs us lazy American's wont. Suprised some of you don't pay more attention to the news BEFORE something becomes a big deal. Oh, btw bush is thinking about using nuclear weapons on Iran. So keep an eye out in the news for this in the future too.

I dont want to start a debate with you about Bush and his thinking but you make it seem like he wants to legalize anyone who wants citizenship. I think, based on articles I have read, that Bush wants to legalize those who are willing to contribute to society.

Americas problem with illegal aliens isnt towards those who work to provide for themselves but against those who are trying to leech money from taxpayers pockets.

[Gravy]

Agreed, i don't want to start an argument, and if someone does... take it to PM. Don't take the thread off topic.


I've read several coments by bush and he's made it clear a few times he wants to legalize the citizens in the US because they will do labor that we wont. The country would "Suffer" from the loss, but he wants to make them legal. There was talk, but no draft, of a bill that was going to legalize all current US illegal imagrants and stiffen the boarders.

Also, by legalizing the citizens of the US, they DO contribute, so that's why he wants to do it. More taxes, more money to spend, and better estimation on the population of illegals in the US.

Edit: Following Text

I said i'd try and find a little more, and that's about all i can get in class atm.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&feed=rss.news

First part of this site:
http://www.qctimes.net/articles/2006...3179639429.txt

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.ph...8-021826-8365r

[Talian]

More stuff to make us burn -Must read:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=36664

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/3377867.stm

http://www.aarpsegundajuventud.org/e...andidates4.htm

http://www.vdare.com/awall/fox_madrid.htm

(Bush sr)
http://www.acton.org/ppolicy/comment/article.php?id=175

(Bush jr)
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/...90.html?page=2

http://www.alipac.us/article752.html

[FattyBoomBatty]

So, since there is a limit on how many people can apply for or get citizenship each year, why don't we just increase that number for mexico. then more poeple can come accross the border as legal citizens. does anyone have a problem with that?

[CVD]

No, as long as standards are maintained as far as language and education are concerned. And as long as the current system can support them and turn them into productive members of society.

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty

So, since there is a limit on how many people can apply for or get citizenship each year, why don't we just increase that number for mexico. then more poeple can come accross the border as legal citizens. does anyone have a problem with that?

Do you really think that more people are going to go "HMMMMM, well it looks like I want to live in Mexico" based on that.. We all know why they come over here and NOWHERE near as many Americans go there. Standard of living is way better, money is worth more here, there's more readily available and easily accessible goods, blah blah blah; of which nothing is like that in most of Mexico. No one would give a shit IMO if Mexico made it easier to get citizenship there, or at least I haven't come across someone who would ever want to move there.

[tim]

You are way off Lampshade man, he is talking about raising the limit for the amount of mexicans that are able to come here. Not US citizens to go there.

[NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE]

Oh, I guess I read it wrong then, kinda durnk last night, sorry.