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View Poll Results: What cams are good with 14B's/16G's?
FP cam 1 3 5.17%
HKS 264/264 12 20.69%
Crower 412’s 0 0%
FP cam 2 2 3.45%
HKS 272/272 16 27.59%
Crower 413’s 0 0%
Crower 414’s 0 0%
Crower 415’s 0 0%
I don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about but I wanted to vote. 25 43.10%
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Old 03-01-2005   #11
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Re: CAMS!!! Best for 14B/E3 B16G?

It was 2.1Hp, sorry. And -10 lb/ft of TQ. And remember, I don't have a 16G yet.

Thanks for all the opinions. Any particular reason no one likes the FP (Comp) cams? I know Cher had an issue with his wearing, but I haven't heard of anyone else having issues. They seem pretty good, they are supposedly made on a CNC grinder like HKS’s are.

Also, I am not saying 272’s are overkill. What I am saying is that the 264’s may give me more USABLE power. But, maybe I should just go with something bigger.

Mo, what kind of gas mileage did you get back in the day? Yes, that is a consideration for me.

Josh, it was one line, get off JET’s case.

JET, it’s not my racecar, that’s $400 that could be spent on my racecar. The 16G is plenty for a DD. And I run 20PSI daily.


AMS CAM TEST
Test vehicle:

-1994 Eagle Talon - 5spd

-1991 Motor with roughly 40K miles, stock bottom and top end including head gasket

-Turbo: 16G with ported exhaust housing

-Exhaust Manifold: 2G ported

-Intake Manifold: Stock

-Throttle Body: Stock

-MAF: 1G slightly hacked (screw backed out) with K&N filter & stock turbo intake pipe

-Intercooler: Spearco 2-221 core with custom mandrel bent 2.25" diameter piping.

-Exhaust: HRC O2 eliminator downpipe and 3" exhaust with no cat-conv.

-Injectors & Fuel Control: Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump, 510cc/min injectors & S-AFC

-Boost controller: Ric Gillis Manual boost controller, check ball & spring type.

-Gas: 100 octane unleaded

-Ignition: Stock with NGK BPR7ES plugs, timing set to stock specifications





Cams Tested:

Stock Mitsubishi

Web Cams - Street Grind

HKS 264 intake 264 Exhaust

HKS 264 intake 272 Exhaust

HKS 272 intake 272 Exhaust

Crower - Stage 3 Grind

Jun Stage 3 Grind



Peak Horsepower and Torque Results:



Stock Mitsubishi Camshafts:

Peak HP: 309.5

Peak TRQ: 295.3

Spool up on street: quick, full boost by 3.2K RPM in 3rd gear with good power when off boost and as it's coming onto boost.



Web Cams - Street Grind:

Peak HP: 314.3

Peak TRQ: 295.3

Spool up on street: slower than stock, full boost by 3.4K RPM in 3rd gear with less power off boost than stock cams.



Crower - Stage 3 Grind

Peak HP: 322.6

Peak TRQ: 314.0

Spool up on street: much slower than stock (the worst of all the cams) with full boost hitting by 3.6-3.7K RPM and a definite loss in power off boost compared to stock cams.



Jun Stage 3 Grind

Peak HP: 323.7

Peak TRQ: 323.2

Spool up on street: Car was not driven on the street.



HKS 264 Intake 264 Exhaust

Peak HP: 323.1

Peak TRQ: 333.0

Spool up on street: As good as stock (3.2K RPM), with off boost power the same if not better than stock.



HKS 264 Intake 272 Exhaust

Peak HP: 324.2

Peak TRQ: 333.1

Spool up on street: Slightly slower than stock (3.3K RPM in 3rd gear) and a very slight loss in power in off boost conditions.



HKS 272 Intake 272 Exhaust

Peak HP: 325.2

Peak TRQ: 323.4

Spool up on street: Slower than stock, full boost by 3.4K RPM in 3rd gear with a slight loss in power in off boost conditions.
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