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[Murlo26]

They require the AP for 8/9's too? That seems silly as they don't really support it anymore unless I am not understanding something.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by Murlo26

They require the AP for 8/9's too? That seems silly as they don't really support it anymore unless I am not understanding something.

As of right now, correct. They're actually looking into tuning 8/9's with ECUFlash, but first they want to figure out a way to securely lock the ROM's so people can't edit/share them. Some tuners lock theirs in ECUFlash, but they're easy to unlock if you know what you're doing.