Simply brilliant - mosque @ Ground Zero

[Speedfreak]

Nice post, thanks for posting that. It's pretty much dead on. I'm not a fan of his, but I'll give him credit for having a clear thought and voicing it.

This topic is all over the news and the world of politics lately. But in regards to "why not just move the location?". Why? The religion of Islam(Muslims) didn't do 9/11, some extremists did. Muslims died in those buildings as well. By moving the location, in effect, it would be saying that Islam was the reason for 9/11. That is not the case. Thus, no reason to move an Islamic center for no reason.

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

I do find it funny that the same people that think Christians should be burned in gas chambers suddenly are all for religious freedom.

Are you referring to Muslims? If so, Steve, you and I should chat some time about what is the truth about Islam/Muslims. Sounds like you've been filled with some garbage/propaganda/hate from somewhere.

Islam teaches/mandates respect for all other religions and specifically Christians and Jews as our brothers. We are all "people of the book". That's the way we see it, but I guess I can't speak for Christians or Jews.

With somewhere between 1.5 and 1.7 billion Muslims in this world, if Islam was what some mislead people believed it to be, the world would be in a constant state of religious war.

[goodhart]

Originally Posted by Speedfreak

With somewhere between 1.5 and 1.7 billion Muslims in this world, if Islam was what some mislead people believed it to be, the world would be in a constant state of religious war.

It's not? lol

[Speedfreak]

Originally Posted by goodhart

It's not? lol

I assume you are joking. But if not, um no, not even close. And what is going on as "wars" is a completely different topic altogether.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by goodhart

It's not? lol

No shit. Religious or otherwise, what continent doesn't have some sort of war going on? I'm sure even the penguins on Antarctica are out for someone.

[Speedfreak]

Originally Posted by goodhart

It's not? lol

Originally Posted by Speedfreak

I assume you are joking. But if not, um no, not even close. And what is going on as "wars" is a completely different topic altogether.

Originally Posted by Kracka

No shit. Religious or otherwise, what continent doesn't have some sort of war going on? I'm sure even the penguins on Antarctica are out for someone.

My point was toward branding a religion based on a few. When there are 1.5 to 1.7 billion people, there is bound to be a certain percentage of people who are extremists. It's within every religion or organized group around the world. So to point to things like this "Ground Zero Mosque" and label it some kind of terrorist threat(by connecting it with 9/11 and some extremists) is obscene.

And if any of the big religions wanted to.. they could start a world war, not localized political/$ "wars".

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by Speedfreak

Are you referring to Muslims? If so, Steve, you and I should chat some time about what is the truth about Islam/Muslims. Sounds like you've been filled with some garbage/propaganda/hate from somewhere.

Momin, I'm not referring to Muslims with that statement at all, I was referring to the bulk of the more extreme liberals, most of which I'd say are white. I'm thinking of one person on another car board in particular.