Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog

[Murlo26]

Well i am going to tow my car up to DB this saturday during the dyno day. I will be up there anyway so figured i would kill two birds with one stone.

I spoke with Danny again and he made a lot of sense and seems very direct and honest about why he suggested what he did.

I feel like Chris may be mad at me a bit since I didn't chose MAP but the way that danny quoted the build made more sense to me.

MAP's labor costs were considerably higher because they were factoring in a bore and hone of the block. If i went with a used core that would make sense, but Danny suggested we just go with a new OEM shortblock and then Mitsubishi does all that Machine work anyway. He said he would check clearances and file down the rings and everything so we should be good to go.

I don't think MAP's way was bad just unnecessary if you have a new block. Otherwise no one would be able to do drop in's ever if they had to bore/hone the motor.

Regardless, I spoke with another Mechanic, one of my best friends who has an SR20det'ed 240 which is very similar to the 4b11t and he said the stock shortblock that is new would work perfect and that is what he would recommend.

So it is decided. I apologized to Chris for any nonsense I created but I have given them a lot of business already, as well as DB, so now it is time to get down to business and start this project up.

I will probably get my diff pins upgrading while the motor is out too as a side note.

Also talked with my bank on friday and they are going to give me a loan based on the car as collateral. since with my super low interest rate on the X a refinance wouldn't make sense.

Lets do eeetttt.

[v8klla]

Originally Posted by Murlo26

I feel like Chris may be mad at me a bit since I didn't chose MAP but the way that danny quoted the build made more sense to me.

MAP's labor costs were considerably higher because they were factoring in a bore and hone of the block. If i went with a used core that would make sense, but Danny suggested we just go with a new OEM shortblock and then Mitsubishi does all that Machine work anyway. He said he would check clearances and file down the rings and everything so we should be good to go.

I don't think MAP's way was bad just unnecessary if you have a new block. Otherwise no one would be able to do drop in's ever if they had to bore/hone the motor.

I'm not mad sir lol, the truth is we're months out on labor anyways I just wanted to get another Evo X build under our belt so we could further the market those services on a national and international level.

To clear things up, we were also open to using a new stock block to avoid the machining costs. I simply had to warn you that aftermarket pistons generally run larger piston to wall clearances and that we wouldn't know for sure that no additional hone would be necessary until we had all of the parts spec'd out. If you recall you were the one that didn't want any additional charges popping up down the line

[Murlo26]

Originally Posted by v8klla

I'm not mad sir lol, the truth is we're months out on labor anyways I just wanted to get another Evo X build under our belt so we could further the market those services on a national and international level.

To clear things up, we were also open to using a new stock block to avoid the machining costs. I simply had to warn you that aftermarket pistons generally run larger piston to wall clearances and that we wouldn't know for sure that no additional hone would be necessary until we had all of the parts spec'd out. If you recall you were the one that didn't want any additional charges popping up down the line

Well thanks for clearing it up, it honestly wasn't an easy decision for me and I respect your honesty. I think truly the reason I ended up at DB was simply because I have Shane tune the car, so it would be easier to have one shop do the work and if something went wrong it wasn't a who's to blame thing.

I am happy that you don't hold a grudge, thank you for that. As I had said before, I like both shops very much. I guess it seemed through our emails/talks that you guys would've preferred to play it safe and bore/hone the motor. Obviously there is significant cost associated with that.

Regardless, thank you for your time Chris, i really do appreciate it.