I'll Probably be banned for this again....

[MATCHBX]

The biggest thing is that this policy is hitting everyone in the pocketbook no matter who you are. It is also rewarding laziness and punishing those who work to better themselves. Why should I work hard to get the money to afford a very comfortable living only for the government to come and take more taxes out of my pocket to pay for someone else that doesn't want to earn their own way?

And it is against pretty much everything this country was founded on. Freedom of choice will not exist much longer. You will have to do what they want you to whether you like it or not.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by MATCHBX

The biggest thing is that this policy is hitting everyone in the pocketbook no matter who you are. It is also rewarding laziness and punishing those who work to better themselves. Why should I work hard to get the money to afford a very comfortable living only for the government to come and take more taxes out of my pocket to pay for someone else that doesn't want to earn their own way?

And it is against pretty much everything this country was founded on. Freedom of choice will not exist much longer. You will have to do what they want you to whether you like it or not.

The current system in place is hitting everyone's pocketbook anyway. if someone goes into a hospital and rings up a big bill which it happens every time, the bill goes to the taxpayers, in a hidden tax at the end of the year. This is the truth. This will then be eliminated due to everyone being covered. Yes you may have a slight tax increase, BUT there is good reason for that. Say you get cancer, you lose your job a couple months later, Does your cancer immediately stop spreading.... NO. So therefore you still need that care, but hell the company you worked for isnt going to fit your medical bills are they? Wouldn't it be nice if there is a plan in place that prevents you from ever going without insurance. OH YEA, thanks to the Democrats (Republicans had NOTHING to do with this yet they are still covered) you will still be able to get your treatments and be with your family longer.
Not to mention if you choose to go on a government plan, you will likely save enough money to cover the slight increase in taxes. Which very likely the increase will go to the Top 1% of incomes, the sleazy dirt bag that fired you from said job. the guys here that are saying the top 1% are the ones creating job are living in a fantasy world, they only care about money and 90 percent of the time its firing people in the US and shipping jobs overseas.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Which very likely the increase will go to the Top 1% of incomes, the sleazy dirt bag that fired you from said job. the guys here that are saying the top 1% are the ones creating job are living in a fantasy world, they only care about money and 90 percent of the time its firing people in the US and shipping jobs overseas.

Yes, because the only way anyone ever gets rich is by lying, cheating and stealing.

[2zzgtte]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Say you get cancer, you lose your job a couple months later, Does your cancer immediately stop spreading.... NO. So therefore you still need that care, but hell the company you worked for isnt going to fit your medical bills are they? Wouldn't it be nice if there is a plan in place that prevents you from ever going without insurance. OH YEA, thanks to the Democrats (Republicans had NOTHING to do with this yet they are still covered) you will still be able to get your treatments and be with your family longer.

Like I said, I don't want to pay for that person and all the rest of the low life's that are using my tax dollars and not putting into the pool. I think that if this person NEEDED the money, they would apply and get approved for state run health care, Medicare, and Medicaid. There is no reason to overhaul the worlds greatest health care system because he wants to provide for his "low income families".

This is "sharing the wealth" at its finest. I am sure you are all for socialism and if not communism if you think this is a good idea.

Also, if nationalized health care is such a great idea, why aren't governemt officals covered by it? Why do they get a different health care plan than us? They are no different than us but they get treated differently.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 2zzgtte

Like I said, I don't want to pay for that person and all the rest of the low life's that are using my tax dollars and not putting into the pool. I think that if this person NEEDED the money, they would apply and get approved for state run health care, Medicare, and Medicaid. There is no reason to overhaul the worlds greatest health care system because he wants to provide for his "low income families".

This is "sharing the wealth" at its finest. I am sure you are all for socialism and if not communism if you think this is a good idea.

Also, if nationalized health care is such a great idea, why aren't governemt officals covered by it? Why do they get a different health care plan than us? They are no different than us but they get treated differently.

LMFAO!!! WORLDS GREATEST???????!?!
First of all. calling our heathcare the worlds greatest is a mass overstatement. Which starts with Pre Existing condition bull shit and ends with 35 million people not being covered.
Secondly Government officials ARE covered under a socialised plan. We pay for their nice ass heathcare plans.
the US is ranked 37th in the World Health Organizations rankings of all countries heathcare systems. Im sure there is much more data than "The WHO is a socialist organization trying to push the socialist agenda." which i know was coming very soon after this comment.
Now would you please take off your rocket boots and come down to earth. KTHXBYE

[FattyBoomBatty]

Originally Posted by 2zzgtte

Like I said, I don't want to pay for that person and all the rest of the low life's that are using my tax dollars and not putting into the pool. I think that if this person NEEDED the money, they would apply and get approved for state run health care, Medicare, and Medicaid. There is no reason to overhaul the worlds greatest health care system because he wants to provide for his "low income families".

This is "sharing the wealth" at its finest. I am sure you are all for socialism and if not communism if you think this is a good idea.

Also, if nationalized health care is such a great idea, why aren't governemt officals covered by it? Why do they get a different health care plan than us? They are no different than us but they get treated differently.

What do you think you are doing when you buy health insurance from a health insurance company? You are paying for other people's problems, and when you get superaids from being such a fox news nut swinger, that little monthly bill you pay could never cover the costs you incur by getting treated at a hospital, so you are using other people's money for your problems.

So you are the worlds biggest hypocrite, congratulations.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty

What do you think you are doing when you buy health insurance from a health insurance company? You are paying for other people's problems, and when you get superaids from being such a fox news nut swinger, that little monthly bill you pay could never cover the costs you incur by getting treated at a hospital, so you are using other people's money for your problems.

So you are the worlds biggest hypocrite, congratulations.

Dont forget to mention that now that you have the super aids, under the previous heathcare you would never be able to get coverage under another insurance company. So all of that money you worked so hard for to give to the insurance company is now gone. Dont lose that job or your really fucked. A friend of my right wing idiot of a brother went through this exact thing, He has aids, and is now stuck at the same company with the same crappy plan because if he switches he will no longer be covered by any company.

[s1ngletracker]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Dont lose that job or your really fucked.

what you don't realize, sir, is there are MANY WAYS TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM without the government running healthcare. Also, I really like how you just regurgitate the rhetoric given to you by Obama - "Everyone gets health care, its the best thing for all of us, fluffy rainbows and unicorns". For your sake, I really hope that miracle comes true.

Also, justifying these actions by saying "Bush did it, so we're gonna do it too" is about the most backwards argument I've heard. Two wrongs don't make a right, yadda yadda. And you're also assuming that us against the healthcare bill were bush fanboys. In my case, I will give you a firm Heck No! Also, I don't recall Bush touting and bragging about how open he would be... just saying.

What I think most dems fail to realize that the root of this problem is the COST of our healthcare. If you tackle that problem, healthcare will be inherently more attainable by everyone! Also, with a few other fixes, the other problems you mentioned will be solved, none of which require the gov't taking over. Some regulating, absolutely. That's the job of the gov't.