Evo X upgrades

[Kracka]

I don't really agree with your "limiting downtime" statement. My car has never been down for more than a few hours any given weeknight or weekend. Doing one thing at a time allows you to get the car back on the road within hours of beginning the work, and if an issue arises, helps you pinpoint it since only certain things were touched. Some things make sense to go together such as the turbo, o2 housing, and exhaust manifold since they all need to be removed anyway to replace just the turbo, but trying to lump cams, etc. into that job is just going to lead to frustration and more down-time.

[mlomker]

Originally Posted by Kracka

I don't really agree with your "limiting downtime" statement.

Most of my work is done by shops, either RS or DB so I need to deal with their schedules. I live alone, don't have a garage (park in a ramp), and only have one car. Have to see if I can borrow Dad's pickup truck for any multi-day projects.

You did get me thinking that breaking this into two jobs would be less painful.

1) exhaust manifold/turbo/test pipe/throttle body/mild tune
2) rods/pistons/cams/springs/more aggressive tune

I shot Shane an email to get some feedback. The first one is basically a one-day job. The second one is probably 2-3 days.

[Murlo26]

^That's what I essentially ended up doing. Mild tune first, big tune after clutch/flywheel/SSP MC.

I honestly think you will find it easier to do this. Plus you can break in some parts first. Maybe do the internals/cams first...that way those will be all good to go so your not dyno'ing on them new.

Just a thought. Turbo is obviously more appealing.

[mlomker]

Originally Posted by Murlo26

Just a thought. Turbo is obviously more appealing.

I could just have him fix the idle on the cams and do a final tune later.

I'm thinking some people might like to see the BB-X on stock internals w/no cams as far as the dyno sheet goes. Having before/after with the MX1's vs just the BB-X would also be interesting.

It's also the less expensive part of the project. Wanna figure out my tax situation since phase 2 could be postponed if necessary.

Shane had some questions about my choice in head studs and head gasket (Arp & Cosworth). I want to ask around and make sure I'm making the right decision since that motor is only coming apart once. <knock on wood>

[slowbubblecar]

Originally Posted by mlomker

Most of my work is done by shops, either RS or DB so I need to deal with their schedules. I live alone, don't have a garage (park in a ramp), and only have one car. Have to see if I can borrow Dad's pickup truck for any multi-day projects.

You did get me thinking that breaking this into two jobs would be less painful.

1) exhaust manifold/turbo/test pipe/throttle body/mild tune
2) rods/pistons/cams/springs/more aggressive tune

I shot Shane an email to get some feedback. The first one is basically a one-day job. The second one is probably 2-3 days.

If it was me and I was paying someone to do the work, I would probaly try to get all of these done at the same time. To do the motor work, you will need the whole trubo setup off at the same time anyhow and it will save on having the car tuned again. Just my opionion though...

[mlomker]

Originally Posted by slowbubblecar

you will need the whole trubo setup off at the same time anyhow and it will save on having the car tuned again. Just my opionion though...

My understanding is that the exhaust mani would have to come off but that's it. The X turbo bolts to the back side of the motor so that can all stay in place. I guess I should double-check that.

I'm guessing once the stock mani is off the car that re-pulling the tubular later will be cake by comparison since the nuts won't be as bad. At least that was my experience with the downpipe.

I'll get Shane's opinion on it.