Evo X upgrades

[Murlo26]

^dude i know how you feel.

I am broke as a joke. CREDIT CARDS ftw I guess...I hate to carry a balance but the way my shit is turning out it is going to happen.

[mlomker]

Originally Posted by Murlo26

CREDIT CARDS ftw I guess

haha. Technically I haven't dipped into credit but before I bought this car I had a savings account well into the five figures. Gone.

Originally Posted by goodhart

Researching before buying FTW.

Tough to argue with that. A lot of things are opinion. A lot of things on a new car (like the X) nobody knows at all. Is it adequate to use DW1000's on a double-pump to max out an FP Red or will murlo26 need an fpr or larger injectors? He doesn't know and I don't either.

Paying by the hour for shop/dyno time and buying parts just to swap them in & out while tuners/installers learn what is needed is SUPER expensive business. If I had a 10 year old car then I suppose I could be accused of not doing my homework and being lazy. I spend so much time on the forums that I'm more than a little worried about my employer noticing.

I didn't know shit about cars until six months ago, despite my age. There's a learning curve with everything. Many of the guys on this forum have been 'car guys' for many years. I don't pretend to be in your league.

[t-revzr]

Originally Posted by mlomker

haha. Technically I haven't dipped into credit but before I bought this car I had a savings account well into the five figures. Gone.

Ha Ha At least you have one! Right out of college I bought this car and dumped tons of money into it. My savings starts in about a month after the car gets tuned lol..

[mlomker]

Originally Posted by t-revzr

My savings starts in about a month after the car gets tuned lol..

You'll be growing up quicker than me, buddy. I probably won't consider the car done until it is totalled or stolen.

They say that Capricorns age in reverse. Might be something to that.

[turbotalon1g]

Originally Posted by mlomker

haha. Technically I haven't dipped into credit but before I bought this car I had a savings account well into the five figures. Gone.



Tough to argue with that. A lot of things are opinion. A lot of things on a new car (like the X) nobody knows at all. Is it adequate to use DW1000's on a double-pump to max out an FP Red or will murlo26 need an fpr or larger injectors? He doesn't know and I don't either.

Paying by the hour for shop/dyno time and buying parts just to swap them in & out while tuners/installers learn what is needed is SUPER expensive business. If I had a 10 year old car then I suppose I could be accused of not doing my homework and being lazy. I spend so much time on the forums that I'm more than a little worried about my employer noticing.

I didn't know shit about cars until six months ago, despite my age. There's a learning curve with everything. Many of the guys on this forum have been 'car guys' for many years. I don't pretend to be in your league.

Not really, just actually try to learn about cars, How does he know what injectors he will need?

Work out the brake specific fuel consumption needs of what his whp should be and work from there.

INcrease by 20%ish for a good safety margin. If you noobies don't know and want to blame it on the cars being new then go ahead, but there are plenty of local tuners and national that could lend a hand, MAP made 800 on their 10, I've heard of ETS making some good power, there seem to be plenty of shops trying out all kinds of shit for these newer cars.
I am sure they might be able to lend a hand somewhere, I think help is just a phone call away rather than believing all the "wise" insight you might find from some joe on the net.

HE might want some 1200s, btw if shooting for 550hp (i'm not sure about what the red does if you could let me know I could try to work it out.)

[mlomker]

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

I am sure they might be able to lend a hand somewhere, I think help is just a phone call away rather than believing all the "wise" insight you might find from some joe on the net.

HE might want some 1200s, btw if shooting for 550hp (i'm not sure about what the red does if you could let me know I could try to work it out.)

Most of the Joe's are guys that run performance shops elsewhere in the country. You can also lump outfits like MAP and the other performance shops into the equation.

If you want install an afpr on a Evo 8/9 then you just order a kit from MAP and bolt it on. They don't make one for the X so Dave (murlo26) is having MAP take his car for a couple weeks to build a kit. Sure it'll be for sale later down the road but it's not there today. All I'm saying is that anything you want to do on an Evo 8/9 (or DSM) there will be 10 guys that have already done it, posted a how-to, and offering the parts on Ebay for $20. It's not like that on the X right now. Every time you want something you have to find someone willing to figure it out, negotiate what that's gonna cost, etc. My Full Blown/double pump setup was the first one ever done. My BB-X is the first one...production #1. It is harder, that's all I'm saying.

Regarding the injectors...that's a part of the fun. Nobody makes 1200cc injectors for the X. You can buy 1000's or 2200's if you're on E85. Murlo is going to try overdriving the 1000's. I'll probably try the 2200's.

I have asked Shane & Ron quite a few questions (in addition to Buschur and other shop owners). The answer in almost every case is "It worked xx way on the 8/9's. Want to give it a try (at $75+/hr)?"