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Old 04-20-2009   #1
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Re: MN State Auditor: Get rid of Ethanol!

I agree 100%. Corn-based ethanol is a huge drain on our economy and is driving up the cost of goods.
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I agree 100%. Corn-based ethanol is a huge drain on our economy and is driving up the cost of goods.
The production of ethanol from corn uses only the starch of the corn kernel, all of the valuable protein, minerals and nutrients remain. One bushel of corn produces about 2.7 gallons of ethanol AND 11.4 pounds of gluten feed (20% protein) AND 3 pounds of gluten meal (60% protein) AND 1.6 pounds of corn oil.

Corn used for ethanol production is field corn typically used to feed livestock. Wet mill ethanol production facilities, also known as corn refineries, also produce starch, corn sweeteners, and corn oil — all products that are used as food ingredients for human consumption. Ethanol production also results in the production of distiller’s grains and gluten feed — both of which are fed to livestock, helping produce high-quality meat products for distribution domestically and abroad. There is no shortage of corn. In 2004, U.S. farmers produced a record 11.8 billion bushel corn harvest — and some 1.3 billion bushels (about 11 percent) were used in ethanol production. Additionally, the 2005 crop was among the largest on record. In other words, there is still room to significantly grow the ethanol market without limiting the availability of corn. Steadily increasing corn yields and the improved ability of other nations to grow corn also make it clear that ethanol production can continue to grow without affecting the food supply.

The ethanol industry opens a new market for corn growers, allowing them to enjoy greater profitability. Studies have shown that corn prices in areas near ethanol plants tend to be 5 to 10 cents per bushel higher than in other areas. This additional income helps cut the costs of farm programs and add vitality to rural economies. The additional profit potential for farmers created by ethanol production allows more farmers to stay in business — helping ensure adequate food supplies in the future. Ethanol production also creates jobs, many of which are in rural communities where good jobs are hard to come by. A 2005 study by LECG found the ethanol industry powered the U.S. economy by creating more than 147,000 jobs, boosting U.S. household income by $4.4 billion and reducing the U.S. trade deficit by $5.1 billion by eliminating the need to import 143.3 million barrels of oil. Those kinds of numbers help farmers and all Americans.

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Now go find an actual credible source that isn't clearly biased Search around, I linked to some great Time articles in a previous E-85 discussion thread.
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NONE of this matters. The article is about subsidizing.

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The additional profit potential for farmers created by ethanol production allows more farmers to stay in business...
Ok this is the only thing you really should have posted. And even in the context of this article, they should be able to produce ethanol and make a profit from it, or not produce it. If they can't do it w/o subsidizing, then it is killing us elsewhere.

Ethanol is cool as fuck but its methods of production NEED to change. Why its subsidized I understand but it NEEDS to be driven into efficient production one way or another.
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NONE of this matters.
I quoted Kracka, that's what my reply was to.
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