Death to Saddam

[FattyBoomBatty]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

Go figure, all the liberal countries who can't get their own shit straight are protesting his hanging. Fuck 'em, let him hang.

And if a couple of you clowns actually think Bush is somehow guilty of premeditated murder like Saddam because soldiers have died in a legitimate war, you obviously haven't gotten out and done anything for your country. There's a damn big difference between ordering thousands of people to be shot in the head and thrown into pits versus sending willing people over and paying them to protect our freedom. Personally, I think we should send over all the whiners and put them on the front lines, and throw John Kerry in front of them wrapped in nothing but an American flag.

Yes! Good idea! Sorry I started this, I know I can't convince you guys.

[rst95eclipse]

Originally Posted by cudvig

We both have signed up to be deployed................. So if you bitch ass liberal want to get something done stop whining and actually try to help this country instead of destoring it.

First off, I have nothing but respect for you and your best friend for enlisting and even volunteering to be deployed. You both are making the world a better place to live.

I consider myself a moderate, neither a liberal nor a conservative. I would however like to understand how you believe that liberals are whining, getting nothing done, and even destroying this country. Yes, they do want change, as do most Americans. Please do not cite John Kerry's comments. No politician or American would support his statements.

[FattyBoomBatty]

Originally Posted by cudvig

There has only been two presidents who had to deal with the probelm of being attacked on our own soil, first FDR WWII but that was pearl harbor and not the heart of america in downtown NYC at our most important building. So if you bitch ass liberal want to get something done stop whining and actually try to help this country instead of destoring it.

Hey, just noticed this post, I believe you are incorrect, sir.

Mexican War
War of 1812
Revolutionary War
Not to mention countless other attacks on American soil by Native Americans and others.

Serve our country well! Use your head.

[1ViciousGSX]

Hey, did I mention;

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

This is how we should do it in the good ol' USA

Now stop arguing and stay on topic.

By the way, we went over there for oil, got it?

[rst95eclipse]

The Mexican-American War was not fought upon American soil. Texas was not a state, it was annexed while under Mexican rule. It's like saying Iraq is ours, then invading.

We went over there for oil? And I thought it was to import sand for our beaches, since global warming is rising water levels..........

Anyone think it'll be televised?

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by xveganxcowboyx

Saddam and in fact Iraq as a whole had absolutely nothing to do with september 11. Al Quaeda did.

You sure about that?

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Hey, did I mention;

By the way, we went over there for oil, got it?

You're kidding, right?

[AJ]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

Go figure, all the liberal countries who can't get their own shit straight are protesting his hanging. Fuck 'em, let him hang.

And if a couple of you clowns actually think Bush is somehow guilty of premeditated murder like Saddam because soldiers have died in a legitimate war, you obviously haven't gotten out and done anything for your country. There's a damn big difference between ordering thousands of people to be shot in the head and thrown into pits versus sending willing people over and paying them to protect our freedom. Personally, I think we should send over all the whiners and put them on the front lines, and throw John Kerry in front of them wrapped in nothing but an American flag.

Old Man Hill get's my write in Vote!

[FattyBoomBatty]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

You sure about that?

vegancowboy has my vote, Iraq never planned that attack, if you think iraq should be blamed in part for the 9/11 stuff, you could also think that America is to blame for the oklahoma city bombing. Why would the president start a war with a country that didn't harbor the leading terrorists in the attack and had no weapons of mass destruction? That is the real question. One possible answer is that he was getting revenge for his pappy cause saddam put a hit on bush sr. That last part is true.

[A//// Guy]

How can you say that he never had WOMD? He used too... where did they go? My guess is over in a neighboring country being kept safe. And we will never know if Al queda never had ties with Iraq or Saddam, how can you be totally positive they didnt have a connection.

Either way, it is good to get a potentially harmful enemy out of power, and that is what we did.

[AJ]

Why don't we just call up Osama and find out what's going on?

[1slowdsm]

Originally Posted by DSMStyle

Why don't we just call up Osama and find out what's going on?

(jokingly) Maybe we can have Tauni get his number. She seems to have the connections.
She did a nice job on finding out info for Jet though .
But back on topic...Anyone know when this hanging is going to take place? Hanging doesnt seem as painfull as being shot, but it lasts a lot longer so I guess that'll do.

[Jakey]

I wonder if they'll place the noose on eBay when it's all said and done?

[xveganxcowboyx]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

You sure about that?

Yes.

There has never been any evidence supporting that. Even Bush has stated this publickly after being called on his insinuations that there was a connection. There was absolutely no connection between Saddam's regime and sept. 11 or Al Quaeda's actions. In fact, the two were pretty opposed to each other given that Iraq and Saddam's government were much more secular than most middle eastern countries.

[Gravy]

Given it's not pushes fault people got sent over seas, and i'm not blaming him for that... But can't we hang him anyways for being a dumbass?

You think they will televise the hanging? I'd be willing to pay for that sh!t.

Originally Posted by xveganxcowboyx

Yes.



There has never been any evidence supporting that. Even Bush has stated this publickly after being called on his insinuations that there was a connection. There was absolutely no connection between Saddam's regime and sept. 11 or Al Quaeda's actions. In fact, the two were pretty opposed to each other given that Iraq and Saddam's government were much more secular than most middle eastern countries.

We went over because we thought he had nuclear weapons. So we wanted to stop him before he was able to test or atempt to use them on this own people, or a nearby country. It's like giving a 4 year old a big red button that says "DO NOT PUSH", we know what's going to happen.

What i don't get, if we went into iraq to prevent them from getting nukes... didn't north Korea just get them and test them sucesfully? And now Iran is working on their program... at this rate we need a new president or a draft if we are going to keep this up.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

You're kidding, right?

About the oil, yes. About staying on topic, NO.

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by xveganxcowboyx

Yes.

There has never been any evidence supporting that. Even Bush has stated this publicly after being called on his insinuations that there was a connection. There was absolutely no connection between Saddam's regime and sept. 11 or Al Qaeda's actions. In fact, the two were pretty opposed to each other given that Iraq and Saddam's government were much more secular than most middle eastern countries.

Well, if we'd have all known that beforehand, it would've made it much easier to make the decision. But we didn't, and a decision was made, sometimes you have to do that, popular or not. Had Iraq fired a missle our way at some point, we'd all be mad at Bush for not doing anything. Iraq definitely had a nuclear program, but even when that information is given to the American public, some democrats cry foul and have it removed stating the info could get into the wrong hands. Since we just took it out of the wrong hands, that's a weak argument in my book. More like bad timing for them as far as elections go. Hmmmm.

Besides that, just because we don't have pictures of all the weapons with Saddam posing in front of it doesn't mean they weren't there. They had plenty of time to get rid of them before we came over and it's widely though that a lot of it was trucked into Syria. There's also been reports of high levels or serin and other toxic gases dumped into the rivers there, it wouldn't be hard to get rid of. I think it's just a matter of time before we find something big.

I'll agree, Saddam obviously wasn't directly responsible for 9/11. Did he help Al Qaeda along the way? Very good possibility. Did he knowingly harbor and Al Qaeda, I can pretty much guarantee it. Just because you don't see it on the nightly news doesn't mean it doesn't happen. If you've been in the military during any conflict at all, you'd know that.

Point is, going in and killing the bad guy isn't cut and dry in this case. But along the way, we got rid of a murderous dictator and are restoring democracy to a country that's been in fear for decades. We're also building schools and giving freedom to people that are just realizing what it is. So even if we haven't gotten what we came for yet, we've left doing more for that country than all the "save the world" organizations combined could ever do. I feel good about that.

Oh yeah, back on topic for Vicious.

[JET]

Once again, Steve is right on the money.

[Goat Blower]

double post

[1ViciousGSX]

I agree with Steve also, but with all the satellite technology we have, we would have seen plenty of it leaving the country. It's hard to truck missles and such without being out in the open.