Hydrogen Generator for my daily car

[Gravy]

True, but in a gas vehicle you don't want the water in there. So with the pure water set up you need to use stainless steel or ceramic coat anything that would rust.

But, you do know i'm talking about a 100% water car, no gas used, right?

[JET]

Originally Posted by Gravy

True, but in a gas vehicle you don't want the water in there. So with the pure water set up you need to use stainless steel or ceramic coat anything that would rust.

But, you do know i'm talking about a 100% water car, no gas used, right?

Alright, before you tell someone else to do research, you should do some yourself. There is no "water car" it is called a hydrogen powered car. The main by product is water. It does not burn water. Volvo was one of the innovators back when you were probably in diapers. You also do not fill the car up with water, you fill it up with hydrogen, which is stored in a fuel cell.

The problem is that it takes a lot of energy to create hydrogen and you end up with a costly fuel that is difficult to store. It would be great if they could figure out the bugs though. It is the energy system I would like to see succeed the most. Now go do some research and quit wasting our time with gimmicks.

[Gravy]

Originally Posted by JET

Alright, before you tell someone else to do research, you should do some yourself. There is no "water car" it is called a hydrogen powered car. The main by product is water. It does not burn water. Volvo was one of the innovators back when you were probably in diapers. You also do not fill the car up with water, you fill it up with hydrogen, which is stored in a fuel cell.

The problem is that it takes a lot of energy to create hydrogen and you end up with a costly fuel that is difficult to store. It would be great if they could figure out the bugs though. It is the energy system I would like to see succeed the most. Now go do some research and quit wasting our time with gimmicks.

I'm talking about a vehicle, and i've done research, i've seen it too that runs off of water. Now, before you tell me it's a hydrogen car. How the hell would you get water to burn?

It's done by filling the gas tank, or custom build tank, with regular H20 and running it into a presureized metal, or PCV piping. When the correct voltage is run through a series of pipes inside the "Tube" it seperates the water(H20 into the seperate components. This "Gas" is then released from the presurized "Tube" into the intake, of the car, and is drawn in by the natural vacume of the car. Inside the engine, the gases are compresed, ignited, and dispeled the same as a normal engine would. Any guesses as to the byproduct of burning hydrogen and oxygen together? Yep, water.

So, you've now got a car that breathes in gas(Hydrogen and Oxygen) and breathes out unburnt Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Water. During the combustion some of the gases re-form into water, but most don't.

So when i say water car, you start with water in the tank, and end up with water(some) coming out your exauhst. The downfall, you rust out the stock system in a month or two if you don't take the right steps. I'm going to turn a boat motor into a water powered motor. Nothing like running out of gas on the lake, and just dumping some lake water into your tank. :-D

Any more skeptics?

Edit: Following Text

Ok, I have a feeling the last post would come back to haunt me, so here's my proof.
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/carplans.htm

Spirit of Maat is a weird, however VERY knowledgable site. Have a way to get an almost never-ending power suply from one 12 volt battery. I can't remember how it worked, but i'll be looking that up sometime, to see if i can use it in any way, shape, or form.

[tim]

Well of course I am skeptical

I am not going to say you are bsing us or dont know what you are talking about because I dont know enough about the subject. BUT, why hasnt this moved forward and why havent I heard more about this? There are ways to prevent rusting if that is the only problem.

[Gravy]

I can't remember off hand, but either the U.S. gov has a patent on it, or a rich oil owner in the middle east has a pattent on it.

I belive it's the U.S. gov, and it's the same set up they would use in space, or on the moon, to convert water into oxygen and hydrogen for fuel. Even heard of the US gov working on using this to convert sea water into useable oxygen for prolonged underwater stays. Only problem is, they didn't have a use, or way, to disguard the hydrogen.

Needless to say, the models used in space would be MUCH safer and more reliable then our do it yourself builds. One downfall, if the system shorts out, or a spark jumps and contacts the Hydrogen. Say goodbye to your engine, your car, and most of the time, your garage. If, and when it goes off you've got anywhere from 40-100 PSI of compresed Hydrogen and Oxygen waiting to go off.

[CDeutsch]

Originally Posted by Gravy

I'm talking about a vehicle, and i've done research, i've seen it too that runs off of water. Now, before you tell me it's a hydrogen car. How the hell would you get water to burn?

It's done by filling the gas tank, or custom build tank, with regular H20 and running it into a presureized metal, or PCV piping. When the correct voltage is run through a series of pipes inside the "Tube" it seperates the water(H20 into the seperate components. This "Gas" is then released from the presurized "Tube" into the intake, of the car, and is drawn in by the natural vacume of the car. Inside the engine, the gases are compresed, ignited, and dispeled the same as a normal engine would. Any guesses as to the byproduct of burning hydrogen and oxygen together? Yep, water.

So, you've now got a car that breathes in gas(Hydrogen and Oxygen) and breathes out unburnt Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Water. During the combustion some of the gases re-form into water, but most don't.

So when i say water car, you start with water in the tank, and end up with water(some) coming out your exauhst. The downfall, you rust out the stock system in a month or two if you don't take the right steps. I'm going to turn a boat motor into a water powered motor. Nothing like running out of gas on the lake, and just dumping some lake water into your tank. :-D

Any more skeptics?

Edit: Following Text

Ok, I have a feeling the last post would come back to haunt me, so here's my proof.
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/carplans.htm

Spirit of Maat is a weird, however VERY knowledgable site. Have a way to get an almost never-ending power suply from one 12 volt battery. I can't remember how it worked, but i'll be looking that up sometime, to see if i can use it in any way, shape, or form.

And the pressure and electricity needed for this process come from where exactly?

Here's a nice reality check for you hydrogen power people:
http://www.caranddriver.com/columns/...ck-bedard.html

The opening line of the article pretty much sums up the article:

Funny thing about hydrogen cars: If we were all driving them now, the President's FreedomCAR initiative would be anteing up its $1.8 billion to invent the gasoline engine.