05-03-2006
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11 Seconds to Freedom
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty
it also sounds like a gimmic
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Thats what I was thinking. How can they split the molecules of water without and electrolyte? Pure water itself doesnt conduct electricity so I dont see how electrolysis can work. Your money, your call. Definately post back, I'm very interested to see if it works.
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05-03-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
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Originally Posted by Thor06
Thats what I was thinking. How can they split the molecules of water without and electrolyte? Pure water itself doesnt conduct electricity so I dont see how electrolysis can work. Your money, your call. Definately post back, I'm very interested to see if it works.
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Good point, I didn't bring that up. There is an electrolyte. Some electrolytes are just water & sodium.
Read this...
http://www.netmar.com/~maat/archive/...ar/h20car2.htm
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05-04-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
I've seen a Geo gone full water get 95 mpg. And, that's full water, out of the tap and a dual re-use system. The guy filtered the water coming from the tank, released it in small amounts into the engine, just enough to run it, and after the burn efect, he ran it through another filter. He had horrible backpresure, but he re-used the water that didn't burn and re-cycled it into the tank.
I'm not sure where the link is, but for 100 mpg i'd be willing to drop a few hundred bucks.
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05-05-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
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Originally Posted by Gravy
I'm not sure where the link is, but for 100 mpg i'd be willing to drop a few hundred bucks.
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The problem is where does the electricity come from to split the water into hydrogen. You electric bills are gonna go up while your gas station costs go down.
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05-05-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
This whole thread was good for a laugh, but this is the best!!!
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Originally Posted by Gravy
but he re-used the water that didn't burn and re-cycled it into the tank.
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Our education system has gone down the shitter. Since when does water burn??
Here is an bit from his Ebay ad:
Also there is no secret calculations to get multiple units to work on your car. I will not help you , it will help you burn out your alternator is what it will do and any gains you would have seen will be eaten up in load on the alternators , now there is a way to get around it and this only works in electrolysis, you get the same output if you say use 22.5 watts or 225 watts . You can use a dc to dc converter and run the unit at 1.5 volts ( min is 1.2 volts ) and 15 amps or you can run it at 12 volts at 15 amps , the output will be the same. If you use a dc to dc converter to do the job , then you could in reality run more units. Most people barely have room for one and do not want to maintain more than one , it would be a hassle and hardly worth it as you would still not see much more in gains and still need to run on gasoline or diesel.
If you admit that the amount of gains will be eaten up by the alternator by hooking up multiple units, how would it be much different than running one unit?
Also, it holds one quart of water. How much hydrogen do you think you are going to get from one quart of water? This is another marketing gimmick praying on people that already pay too much for fuel. I know a guy that swore up and down his platinum injection doo hicky made his gas mileage much better. He bought those vials of "platinum" for quite a while until he realized that it wasn't actually doing anything. A lot of these things have a placebo effect. You think it is doing something, you pay attention more and you are a little easier on the gas pedal.
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05-05-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
Research time!!!
I'll post up the site when i find it, but i don't know if i'll find the link. You don't "Burn" the water, but water is a byproduct of the process. That's why you have to ceramic coat your engine internals.
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05-05-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
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Originally Posted by Gravy
but water is a byproduct of the process.
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Water is also a byproduct of burning hydrocarbons, aka gasoline.
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05-05-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
True, but in a gas vehicle you don't want the water in there. So with the pure water set up you need to use stainless steel or ceramic coat anything that would rust.
But, you do know i'm talking about a 100% water car, no gas used, right? 
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05-05-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
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Originally Posted by JET
This whole thread was good for a laugh, but this is the best!!!
Our education system has gone down the shitter. Since when does water burn??
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I must agree, source and quote. Read up on stuff before you insult. I've seen a working version of the PURE water car in person. It's something else.
http://www.netmar.com/~maat/archive/...rplans_doc.htm
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Q: What is the environmental impact that my vehicle will have?
A: It will be producing H20 steam (water vapor) and unburnt O2 (Oxygen). Hence, it will be cleaning the environment, rather than dumping nauseous toxins into it. Plus you will be helping to save our dwindling supply of atmospheric oxygen. Any excess vapor in the reaction becomes either steam or oxygen. You can also expect to be receiving more than casual interest from those around you.
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The thing is, you can use one small system or one large system, use the same energy and get more gas. You presurise the gases and release them as needed to accelerate the car. It's a real piece of work, the only thing is you need to do a bit up upgrading on the car, larger alternator, custom fab an electical system so you can increas and decrease the amount of presure released from the tank to help the vehicle go when you step on the gas. Carberated cars work better, FI takes a little more work, but can be done.
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05-05-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
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I know salts dissolved in water makes an electrolyte, but the auction says that it doesnt need an electrolyte. No electrolyte, no conductivity, no hydrogen.
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