05-10-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
Myth Busted 
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05-10-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
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Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX
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LOL, were you just watching Myth Busters too? 
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05-11-2006
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Who's this guy?
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Saint Cloud
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
Ok then, how about this. If everyone thinks it's impossible, explain why?
I'm not saying, "This site says it can't be done". Because i've seen a working model, infact when i get around to this i'll post on here and invite everyone over for a beer.
I've seen a working car, and as soon as i get money i'll be equiping a motor to run on the same system.
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05-11-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
It' not an issue of "Can the kit produce hydrogen?", yes it can. It's the question of "Can the kit produce enough hydrogen in quantity to make a difference?". The answer is no. 
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05-12-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
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Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX
It' not an issue of "Can the kit produce hydrogen?", yes it can. It's the question of "Can the kit produce enough hydrogen in quantity to make a difference?". The answer is no. 
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And, what amount of power went into seperating the hydrogen, and how was that power made.
Obviously I am talking about other cases besides your car, but the fact remains, there is no such thing as free power, unless you are doing this whole hydrogen seperation thing from a solar or wind powered machine.
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05-13-2006
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Is funding Exxon.
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
That is exactly right. That little 1 qt container has enough hydrogen in it to drive your car a couple of miles, max. There is enough power in there to be equivalent to 2 pints of gas and that doesn't include the power necessary to split the water molecules!
Take some chemistry courses and it will become much more clear. Hydrogen and oxygen like to be together, it takes a fair amount of energy to split them apart. Water is very stable, so it takes a lot of energy. Things that aren't so stable (gasoline for example) split apart easily.
The amount of energy in an equal amount of hydrogen and gas are also very different. Hydrogen atoms are also MUCH smaller than oxygen atoms, so the amount of hydrogen you can get out of water is pretty small compared to the amount of water going in.
I am guessing the "water car" has quite a few batteries in it to provide the energy to make the hydrogen and also could not make as much electricity as it uses. I bet the car would get far just from the electrical power it uses than it could making hydrogen.
Hydrogen can currently be made pretty easily, it just takes too much energy to produce it.
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05-13-2006
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
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05-19-2006
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Wisconsin
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
I got the tracking number for my H2 generator. I should have it by early-mid next week.
Check this out non believers.
http://www.drturi.com/images/FoxNews_-_WaterFuel.wmv
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05-19-2006
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Admin
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
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Check this out reposter.
http://dsmstyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11492
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05-19-2006
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Sten Sniper
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
The more I learn about this topic the more I am convinced that the hydrogen generator does nothing. You need electricity to split the molecules apart, the most energy you can get out of burning them and putting them back together is the amount you used in the first place. And that is if everything is 100% efficient.
For the car in the video, I am betting that he is not making the hydrogen in the car as he drives, he probably runs a machine at his home that is plugged into his wall. There's just no such thing as free energy.
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05-19-2006
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is in debt neck deep
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Wayzata
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
most dsms are fueled by nothing but hopes and dreams anyway so wy bother with gas in the first lace. 95% of your cars dont even drive and arent your daily drivers..
Anyway just want to make some shout outs for my tornado fuel saver, clamp on fuel line molecule splitter, and my octane booster.. Those 3 things made total increase of about 50 whp, quicker excelleration, and mde my tt viper get about 45 miles to the gallon pretty tight huh?
Water powered cars would have no go at all.. If anyone watches the red green show they did do a van that was run on my water by spinning a lunch bench and it floated by duct taping a grip of plastic bottles to crates unter neath it.. so I guess a water car could work...  you guys are lame
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05-19-2006
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is in debt neck deep
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
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05-21-2006
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
Got my Hydrogen generator yesterday. Will hook it up to my daily this week. I was out in garage screwing around with it and filled it with water. I hooked it up to my Battery Charger. I then added about 4 tablespoons of lye that I picked up at Home Depot. You add enough lie till you draw around 15 amps. I plugged the output hole with my finger and then had the charger on for maybe 10 seconds. I took my finger off and quickly stuck a lighter by the output hole. SCARED THE FREEKIN SHIT OUT OF ME!!! I thought it would just blow a flame like a bunson burner. NO! It blew out a fireball and made a BANG to that of a M80. It also blew the PVC filler cap off out into the street. I can't believe how quickly it produced Hydrogen. I can't wait to hook it up to the car. It hooks to the Intake just before the throttle body. You can hook it to the PCV valve but they don't recommend it.
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05-21-2006
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The RTFVfaq Guy
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
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05-21-2006
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Wisconsin
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
 No! Nothing like that. It was just a quick bang with a fireball. A LOUD BANG! The chamber is 4" PVC and about 10" in length or so. These units could easily be duplicated. It's all Home Depot stuff.
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05-21-2006
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is in debt neck deep
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
they are home depot. which is why the guy is making mad profit off people like you.
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05-21-2006
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
Why would he sell it if he didn't make a profit? With the Ammeter gauge and everything else, there might be $30 worth of materials. So what if he made $70. I guess I wouldn't put something on ebay if it was a break even deal. I bought it to try it and reverse engineer it.
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05-21-2006
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is in debt neck deep
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
reverse it as in make it work?
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05-22-2006
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
I can't get over how stupid some people are.
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05-22-2006
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Wisconsin
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Re: Hydrogen Generator for my daily car
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