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Onefast99gsx · 08-17-2006

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

And i just looked at where the position of the TOB fork is and its well over on the passenger side. Its funny because i had come to the conclusion that it wasnt because the inside of it was able to spin freely, and thats all the hayes manual told me to check. Doh.
Oh well, i have the next two days to do this so im pretty good.

The fork should be about in the middle. Check this link out. Goto the very bottom of it.

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/c...ywheeltech.htm

If it was towards the passenger side, then you were probably constant pressure on the TOB which isn't good. Constant pressure on the PP & the crank as well.

**JET** · 08-17-2006

Which comes from adjusting the clutch rod under the dash too far in. That can also damage the master cylinder.

tpunx99GSX · 08-17-2006

Hey, Thank you for all of the help guys, Thats why i love this site so much, You are all always down to help when i need it most. Im going to replace the throwout bearing today and ill let everyone know how it goes. Third times the charm right... lol

Onefast99gsx · 08-17-2006

You're welcome. Yes, it's a very helpful site. You may end up having to get a new master cylinder as well, so don't get disgusted right away if it don't cure the problem.

Unless the TOB has become shaped completely out of proportion from extreme wear or abuse, I think the only bad effect of one would be the noise such as what you're hearing. I don't feel shifting problems would arise from just a noisy TOB.

s1ngletracker · 08-17-2006

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Hey, Thank you for all of the help guys, Thats why i love this site so much, You are all always down to help when i need it most. Im going to replace the throwout bearing today and ill let everyone know how it goes. Third times the charm right... lol

wait... you do understand that the position of your release fork doesnt usually have anything to do with the TOB right? Its your pivot or fork itself, pressure plate, or your hydraulic system. My money is on pivot or fork, or pressure plate. PLEASE check them out before you put the tranny back on! the 4th time would not be a charm

**Kracka** · 08-17-2006

Since you are going to Mitsu for a new TOB anyways, just buy a new fork and ball to be safe since they are fairly inexpensive. Do it once (or three times), do it right.

s1ngletracker · 08-17-2006

arent the forks pretty expensive? I would think you could visually see if the fork is bent, the ball is cheap to replace, so might as well do it.

tpunx99GSX · 08-17-2006

Amazing how i can now take a tranny completly out in less then 2 hours

Heres a couple pics, tell me what you guys think. I was talking to the guy that i bought the car from and he said the PP was pretty much brand spankin new, like less then 15000 miles on it.

A//// Guy · 08-17-2006

I would buy a new PP, TOB, Ball/fork, master cyl. and call it done. Then you elimintate everything. Thats what I did anyway and it ended up being my clutch pedal assembly that needed welding LOL.

**Kracka** · 08-18-2006

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Originally Posted by M/// Guy

I would buy a new PP, TOB, Ball/fork, master cyl. and call it done. Then you elimintate everything. Thats what I did anyway and it ended up being my clutch pedal assembly that needed welding LOL.

LOL, DSM's are gay.

carltalon · 08-18-2006

That pressure plate doesnt look new. It looks like some thing was hitting againt it. its hard to tell from the pics but it looks like something was hitting the flywheel too. I agree with M/// guy replace it all and be done with it.

Matt D. · 08-18-2006

That pressure plate is sure beat to hell. The one I just took off my car supposedly only had a few thousand miles on it (maybe 10,000+ as far as I know) and aside from the dust it was shiny. Yours looks like it was tossed around the garage a few hours before hand.

Nash · 08-18-2006

From the looks of the pictures it looks like the PP fingers are flat. They should be bent out away from the clutch disk.

tpunx99GSX · 08-18-2006

It was the throw out bearing. we got it all together tonight, i was able to put it in gear and press the break without it killing and no noise. but then all of the sudden it started vibrating really badly, so i pulled it in. looked under the car at the flywheel and was gonna have my buddy start it, but then when he got in the car i watched the flywheel move a little, instantly i realised that i didnt double check the bolts after putting the mounts in, so tomorrow im gonna retighten the bolts and that should fix the problem.

npaulseth · 08-18-2006

Horah

**Kracka** · 08-18-2006

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

press the break .

"BRAKE"

Glad you got it fixed, hopefully all is well once you get it back on the road!

s1ngletracker · 08-18-2006

sweet. good to hear. Your fork looks fine by the way.

Onefast99gsx · 08-18-2006

I'd still check the position of the clutch fork. If it's still more towards the passenger side, then it could mean the TOB is constantly riding on the PP. If so, this can cause premature wear.

I agree with the others above. The PP does look like it has seen better days. By the way, the fingers of the PP flatten out as it's tightened to the flywheel. When it's off is generally the only time you'll see them at the angle.

tpunx99GSX · 08-21-2006

Can someone with a GST please go out and take a picture of the lower rear bolt that goes from the engine to the transmission. On my car the Inspection cover is missing, and there is a bolt that goes from the engine to the transmission right above the drive shafts. Im not sure if there is supposed to be a gap there or not. I first thought there was supposed to be one, so i put the bolt in and tighened it with a spacer between the engine and tranny, but it kept wiggleing out for some reason. After tightening that bolt 4 times i decided i would just skip the spacer and tighten it as much as possible. now it doesnt come out but im not sure if there was supposed to be a gap there for lining everything up.
Can someone please go out, jack up their car and take a picture of the bolt right above where the drive shafts come into the tranny so i can compare? Thank you.
Tom

EclipseGST · 08-21-2006

There is not suppose to be any gaps between the tranny and engine block besides the starter plate. They all squeeze together.