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Old 05-27-2006   #1
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Seized? Ahhh...

I was driving yesterday night on 35W N and I all of a sudden my rpms just drop dead and I see my oil light come one (I thought "Oh no. WTF just happened?!"). I put it into gear and let off the clutch hoping it'll start back up. No luck. So I have to pull to the side of the road (left side). So I tried cranking over the engine and it wont crank over at all. I look under the car and there are no signs of a massive oil leak or anything falling/dripping from under the car. I dont think the engine actually blew, because I didnt hear anything break. It was all of a sudden a quick couple studders, rpms drop, oil light on and one worried driver . So I had it towed to my brother's house (closest place atm) and it costed about $110. Then I just told my parents and they're all pissed off because this car has done nothing but break from the time I bought it . So I either need a new engine or buy a new car (another DSM?). Anyone have a 6bolt for sale? Or anyone selling a 90-91 Talon Awd? I still have to talk to my parents about this and see what they wanna do. I'm sure they'll want me to get rid of my car and buy me a new one. They've been saying that to me for a year now. Now I have another problem to worry about. .

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Old 05-27-2006   #2
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

Is there oil in the engine?
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Old 05-27-2006   #3
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

Check the timing belt?
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Old 05-27-2006   #4
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

I saw you on the road last night! with a minivan behind, I was gonna stop! On the way back I was gonna stop, but by that time the tow truck was there! So yeah good luck getting this all sorted out.
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Old 05-27-2006   #5
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

Yep, that was me. I called my brother to take out some cash for the towing cost and he came to where I was. I saw a couple DSMs drive by, haha. I had my cousin (mechanic) take a look at it and we took off the timing belt cover and the timing belt was VERY loose. Yeah, the oil is still full. So now I'm looking for a new engine (6bolt) or a '90-'91 Talon AWD .
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Old 05-27-2006   #6
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

Check the simple stuff first, I'll bet you $10 your engine is fine.
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Old 05-27-2006   #7
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

That happened to me. If your timing belt is loose it won't be as bad as you think. Just some bent valves. Probably won't even have to get a new engine. Just rebuild the head or a new one. It is easier to get a new head. If you look around they are not to bad for $$$ and cheaper then getting it rebuilt.

I know how parents goes, I have 2 dead cars getting fixed in their driveway right now.
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Old 05-27-2006   #8
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

I am guessing it is something electrical. All the cars I have seen with broken t-belts or bent valves would still crank though.
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

check the crank position sensor..those like to come unplugged...

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Old 05-27-2006   #10
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Check over the basics before you think the motor is gone. Try cranking it over by hand.
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Old 05-28-2006   #11
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

I hope the motor is fine . How would I crank it by hand? Never tried that before, so I have no idea how to do it . The car is at my brother's place in Blaine and I live in Stp so I'll have to take a better look at it when I get the chance. Kinda sucks that my brother has no tools at all at his place. I could barely find a tool to take off the timing belt cover!
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

He means turn the engine by hand. Use a 1/2" drive socket wrench or breaker bar on the crank pulley bolt. If the engine spins and you don't hear a nasty metal sound, it's probably something simple.

You can't crank an engine by hand unless you have an old Model T or old radial airplane engine.
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

I just talked to my dad and he says just find a new engine and throw it in, so I guess I'm gonna go find a 6bolt and just do that and hope the 6bolt isnt gonna fuck up on me anytime soon. But I'll try turning it over with a ratchet and see if its fine or not.
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

Why throw a new motor in when you dont even know whats wrong with the old one? Maybe your starter is shot and wont spin the motor? Sounds like something simpler than a seized motor.
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

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I just talked to my dad and he says just find a new engine and throw it in, so I guess I'm gonna go find a 6bolt and just do that and hope the 6bolt isnt gonna fuck up on me anytime soon. But I'll try turning it over with a ratchet and see if its fine or not.
Quit listening to your dad. Spark plug wires worn out? New engine. Needs an oil change, fuck it, throw a new engine in. Run out of gas, buy a new car that has gas in it.

Figure out your problem first, because that will take less time than finding and installing a new engine, and will almost certainly be cheap, plus you will learn a thing or two about how to actually fix cars.
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Re: Seized? Ahhh...

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He means turn the engine by hand. Use a 1/2" drive socket wrench or breaker bar on the crank pulley bolt. If the engine spins and you don't hear a nasty metal sound, it's probably something simple.

You can't crank an engine by hand unless you have an old Model T or old radial airplane engine.
Yeah I ment turn over, wrong word .
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