Deer Hunting - Page 4

A//// Guy · 11-30-2004

Yea I read it what is your point????

I cant agree with you more Craig!

**JET** · 11-30-2004

Man, after reading that report it is even worse than I thought it was before! I think the stoning might even be too nice for him now. Rotting in prison is WAY to nice for that bastard!

Shotgun! · 11-30-2004

Ok, i read the thing. First off, it's long and dry.

That said; no one should ever try to escalate an arguement like that! How drunk or just stupid did the other guys ahve to be? If someone were hunting on the land at my family's farm, I would simply send my sister to ask them to leave. That's just because no one is gonna feel threatened by her. I'd tell her to be very nice and polite. I would then, at the same time, be prone and making use of my scope. It's not that hard to get along folks! If someone was dumb enough to yell and swear or use slurs at/on me (and i do mean a stranger here) and did it in a threatening way, i'd punish them. I'd punish them and any one of their friends that's watching and didn't stop them.

Shotgun! · 11-30-2004

Don't get me wrong here. I think this is a horrible thing to have happened! I hate to think about what the familys are going through, and i do mean all the familys. I think that the secound group (i can't keep the names straight and who was where) of people were just sensless and needless deaths but I would have hurt the first guy.

11-30-2004

i wish wisconsin had the death penalty for this guy.

Jakey · 11-30-2004

I'd still be up for a lynching.

Shotgun! · 11-30-2004

Prison is no cakewalk. Espcally (yeah that's how i spell it) if you did something that's actually wrong (wrong is different from illegal). My point is that he won't have a fun time in prison.

TheBlizzard · 11-30-2004

[QUOTE=Grey Wulf] If someone were hunting on the land at my family's farm, I would simply send my sister to ask them to leave. QUOTE]

You sound pretty tough.

CRAIG

Shotgun! · 11-30-2004

gee, do I? It's not about being tough, that's how people get shot. I think we've proved that.
BTW, my sister can beat you up

**Kracka** · 12-01-2004

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Originally Posted by Onefast99gsx

CRAP! our gas just went up 5 cents to 1.97/gallson 87 oct. Probably funding those dam lawyers now! Bastards.

Get your facts straight, those are not court-appointed lawyers. They are being funded privately from within Minnesota (rumored to be the Hmong community).

Jakey · 09-16-2005

What a great day! This fucker was found guilty: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,169649,00.html

1QUICK4 · 09-17-2005

I'm glad they found him guilty on all charges, but life in prison is to good for that fucker!

AJ · 09-17-2005

Nah, I think he's abotu to be someone's bitch for life now in the pen. lol

sleepy2lazy · 09-17-2005

Some of us DO have friends whose related to this guy. Some of us DO know this guy.

And some of us, are hmong.
Just FYI, the people who funded money, many of it was family and friends.

cudvig · 09-17-2005

damn thats nuts....

-Colin

1QUICK4 · 09-17-2005

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Originally Posted by sleepy2lazy

Some of us DO have friends whose related to this guy. Some of us DO know this guy.

And some of us, are hmong.

And your point is? I have a couple of Hmong friends, that doesn't mean I pitty the piece of shit who did this in any way.

If a white hunter had done this to 6 Hmong people I would feel exactly the same. He slaughtered/executed 5 unarmed people in cold blood. That makes him a worthless piece of shit nomatter what his race or who knows him.

sleepy2lazy · 09-17-2005

My point is that we all really do not know what happened. We all do not really know if he slaughtered / executed the people. If that was the case, he could have walked over and blown each to bits.

He killed people, thats all we know. From all the evidence, we can conclude that he shot more than once to the people from behind. He used 1 entire clip and reloaded the people. From one witness, we hear that the shots fired was not a gunshot war. It happened in a short amount of time.

We know that the guys he shot confronted him. We know that the guys called for guns and so one guy's daughter came over.

The information presented for the case is given. What we don't know is what actually happened besides words being thrown to guys being down.

So for the most part, we don't know what led up to it. Show a little more sensitivity.

- For the most part, his actions were wrong. To everything else, i'm speechless....Your opinions are yours, mine are mine. The harshness sometimes is hard to take, thats all.

1QUICK4 · 09-17-2005

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Originally Posted by sleepy2lazy

He killed people, thats all we know. From all the evidence, we can conclude that he shot more than once to the people from behind. He used 1 entire clip and reloaded the people.

Not only did he shoot unarmed people in the back, he also shot at least one point blank after they were lying on the ground wounded.

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Originally Posted by sleepy2lazy

We know that the guys he shot confronted him. We know that the guys called for guns and so one guy's daughter came over.

Imagine that, someone is hunting on your private property and you confront him. As far as them calling for guns, that is false. One of the wounded called back to deercamp saying he had been shot. The people who came to his rescue did NOT have guns.

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Originally Posted by sleepy2lazy

And for the people that know him, Show a little more sensitivity.

What am I supposed to say? I'm sorry your friend/family member is a murderer? The guy showed no remorse for his actions. He even went so far to say that 4 out of 6 deserved to die.
How about some sympathy for the family of the 6 people he MURDERED. They will only be able to visit their loved ones at the cemetary.
At least Vangs family/friends can visit him in prison.

I am not trying to be a dick but My cousin is from WI and is very good friends with the nephew of one of the murdered hunters.

sleepy2lazy · 09-17-2005

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Originally Posted by 1QUICK4

Not only did he shoot unarmed people in the back, he also shot at least one point blank after they were lying on the ground wounded.

Imagine that, someone is hunting on your private property and you confront him. As far as them calling for guns, that is false. One of the wounded called back to deercamp saying he had been shot. The people who came to his rescue did NOT have guns.

What am I supposed to say? I'm sorry your friend/family member is a murderer? The guy showed no remorse for his actions. He even went so far to say that 4 out of 6 deserved to die.
How about some sympathy for the family of the 6 people he MURDERED. They will only be able to visit their loved ones at the cemetary.
At least Vangs family/friends can visit him in prison.

I am not trying to be a dick but My cousin is from WI and is very good friends with the nephew of one of the murdered hunters.

I can understand where you are coming from. Being a dick or not, same from me. I, didn't know that the trial was happening the other day. Lately i've been so busy with college that i've no connections with anyone than my book. And today, i finally had a small break to read up on things.

The news where i usually take my information on is news.yahoo.com
and from there, you can find the local news, which they take from pioneer press at times.

I read what i could. And to sum it up,

http://www.twincities.com/mld/pionee...ntent=twc_news

If their info is incorrect, i have no further use for the media.

As for shooting point blank, i have missed that.
Saying some of the guys deserved to die, why would he say that? Most likely in anger but would there be any other reason?
As for invading private land, yep, i agree with them there. If someone invaded my land, i'd be pretty ticked too. But according to Terry Willers testimony, Chai Vang apologized and was leaving. If someone invaded my property, i would be cautious. I would be mad. I can understand that, but what else happened?

Also yes, they did call for guns. That is how Jessica Willers got in the mixup.

He's a murderer? According to court, he's guilty. he showed no remorse?
There are people who don't show it right away. I myself don't when i do wrong. But with murder on my mind, i wouldn't know.

Sympathy for the families of the people who lost their loved ones, I haven't said a single thing against them.

I'm not trying to say he's innocent. I'm not trying to say the others are guilty. All i'm trying to say is that there is more than what is told and found.
All i want to know, is the truth.

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Sorry if it seems like i came out harsh and what not at the beginning.. This is a heated topic. Least it is for me, so if my thoughts aren't coming out clearly, i apologize.

CVD · 09-18-2005

Yeah, we would all like to know exactly how it all went down, but sometimes the raw facts speak for themselves, and no amount of "what ifs" make it any less terrible.