Drop the freaking wrench already!

Raptor · 05-13-2005

Just because you can read a little and have the basic idea of where things go in an engine, does not mean you should attempt building one. I am in the middle of double checking the assembly work of some fellow DSMer who lucky for them I don't know the identity of. ARP Moly does not go on the bearings! Niether does the vaseline or whatever the hell that is on the rods. It isn't assembly lube or lubriplate. ARP mains don't go in a stock motor and also there is a reason there are two different torque specs for oil and ARP lube on the studs, notice however there isn't one spec for using both so don't. I swear this person added the two specs together and went to town. Way too tight. And when you do figure out what to use for assembly lube, put some on the thrust surfaces as well, never know, it might be a good idea.

If you can identify with any of these things, drop the wrench until you can at least watch someone or get a helping hand from someone who has done it a time or two. It will save you a bit of money.

Okay, I feel better now.

AJ · 05-13-2005

LOL, it was me! What are you doing checking that 1.8 motor I was secretly building! That's my skill set

Shotgun! · 05-13-2005

That's great! I can atleast follow directions. This sounds like the hot street setup for sure, costum no doubt.

StealthGST · 05-13-2005

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Originally Posted by Raptor

Just because you can read a little and have the basic idea of where things go in an engine, does not mean you should attempt building one. I am in the middle of double checking the assembly work of some fellow DSMer who lucky for them I don't know the identity of. ARP Moly does not go on the bearings! Niether does the vaseline or whatever the hell that is on the rods. It isn't assembly lube or lubriplate. ARP mains don't go in a stock motor and also there is a reason there are two different torque specs for oil and ARP lube on the studs, notice however there isn't one spec for using both so don't. I swear this person added the two specs together and went to town. Way too tight. And when you do figure out what to use for assembly lube, put some on the thrust surfaces as well, never know, it might be a good idea.

If you can identify with any of these things, drop the wrench until you can at least watch someone or get a helping hand from someone who has done it a time or two. It will save you a bit of money.

Okay, I feel better now.

lol, well I'm glad you're on the case

Shotgun! · 05-13-2005

wait, was this built by a local guy?

tpunx99GSX · 05-13-2005

mike accidently left a toenail clipper in his diaper last night so hes in a bad mood. LOL JK.
How do you not know whos engine you are building? did they leave it on your doorstep with a note saying "Fix me"

Raptor · 05-13-2005

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

mike accidently left a toenail clipper in his diaper last night so hes in a bad mood. LOL JK.
How do you not know whos engine you are building? did they leave it on your doorstep with a note saying "Fix me"

Funny bitch.

The engine was sold twice without being finished. The build sheet was passed along, but the question of who assembled it was never answered. It wasn't a shop, that much I know for sure. The machine work all looks fine, I will know more when I check the clearances, but the assembly was done by someone that obviously shouldn't have.

Silly truth is, I do occasionally get parts dropped at my door with notes right along those lines

Raptor · 05-13-2005

I know who did the machining, I don't know who assembled it. I just know it was a somewhat local kid.

1QUICK4 · 05-13-2005

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Originally Posted by Raptor

I know who did the machining, I don't know who assembled it. I just know it was a somewhat local kid.

LMAO, wasn't me dude!

JustROLLIN · 05-13-2005

Wow, sounds like a rock solid bottom end to me. I dunno what you are bitching about. Everyone knows old tranny oil is the best assembly lube.

xluciusx · 05-13-2005

Thats probly what would happen if I tried to put a complete engine together...cept that I wouldn't try to do it myself cuz I know that it would just be plain stupid to do!

EclipseGST · 05-13-2005

LMAO! ARP moly as lube. What could be better?!? Gotta love the newbies. I have done some pretty stupid things before but damn, how can you be that stupid? This isnt small engines class in highschool anymore where your messing with $50 motors. Some people need to get a clue!

Pimpin Dsmstyle · 05-20-2005

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Originally Posted by EclipseGST

LMAO! ARP moly as lube. What could be better?!? Gotta love the newbies. I have done some pretty stupid things before but damn, how can you be that stupid? This isnt small engines class in highschool anymore where your messing with $50 motors. Some people need to get a clue!

Then maybe you should explain to me why we found moly lube on the bottom half of my ARPS going into the block? Im pretty sure that is absolutley worthless and noob like. Maybe you should go back to small engines class, you clearly shouldnt have passed. Also, maybe you should go back to 1st grade english class. That is where they teach you to read ( Cough :: DIRECTIONS :: cough).

I barely passed small engines myself, and no the briggs didnt ever run!! haha, thats why I pay mike to build my engine

Matt D. · 05-20-2005

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Originally Posted by 90lazerRST

Then maybe you should explain to me why we found moly lube on the bottom half of my ARPS going into the block? Im pretty sure that is absolutley worthless and noob like. Maybe you should go back to small engines class, you clearly shouldnt have passed. Also, maybe you should go back to 1st grade english class. That is where they teach you to read ( Cough :: DIRECTIONS :: cough).

Last I checked one right plus one wrong doesn't equal two rights. Congratulations that the ARPs were installed correctly. Get off your horse.

EclipseGST · 05-21-2005

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Originally Posted by 90lazerRST

Then maybe you should explain to me why we found moly lube on the bottom half of my ARPS going into the block? Im pretty sure that is absolutley worthless and noob like. Maybe you should go back to small engines class, you clearly shouldnt have passed. Also, maybe you should go back to 1st grade english class. That is where they teach you to read ( Cough :: DIRECTIONS :: cough).

I barely passed small engines myself, and no the briggs didnt ever run!! haha, thats why I pay mike to build my engine

I am looking at the little piece of paper that comes in the ARP box...

First off, it says: Use ARP moly whenever possible... So considering its possible to use it in the block threads, I used it.

Second: Since most studs extend into the water jacket, coat threads with oil or ARP moly lubricant and screw in hand tight ONLY. NOTE: If permanent mounting is preferred, Loc-tite may be used, You may also use high temperature RTV silicon. Whatever product is used, it is imperative that the cylinder head is installed and torqued to the proper level. Install the gasket and head, then lubricate washers and nuts with oil or ARP moly prior to their installation.

Thats what it says on the little piece of paper that I just pulled out of a brand new box of ARP studs.

Like I said... I am not perfect, I dont know everything and I have done some stupid things before. Shit I do stupid things all the time. So if they are saying to install them wrong then I guess I am a fool for following directions and also doing what they taught me in school (Tech). I dont remember you being around much when I was puting YOUR motor in YOUR car. Oh wait you were sleeping, thats right! When you knew I was doing all the work for free to help a fellow DSMer out who needed to get his car running. Then you got pissed at me cause I couldnt make it up one weekend and you really wanted your car done. Then when I got the car running, what happened? You stopped talking to me... Never called anymore, wouldnt return calls, not even a Thank you. You did help me get that turbo from Peter (Eclipseturbo I believe it is) which I appreaciate very much since I was in pretty much despirate need of a turbo. But it seems as if you just were going to use me and didnt give a fuck about anything once your car was running. You must be too good for me, sorry I am not a professional engine builder and I was the cause of your motor going to shit. Also, I would like to know how that affected your motor? What did it do to it? Cause I guess I cant do it right, might as well learn from it.

Pimpin Dsmstyle · 05-21-2005

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Originally Posted by EclipseGST

I am looking at the little piece of paper that comes in the ARP box...

First off, it says: Use ARP moly whenever possible... So considering its possible to use it in the block threads, I used it.

Second: Since most studs extend into the water jacket, coat threads with oil or ARP moly lubricant and screw in hand tight ONLY. NOTE: If permanent mounting is preferred, Loc-tite may be used, You may also use high temperature RTV silicon. Whatever product is used, it is imperative that the cylinder head is installed and torqued to the proper level. Install the gasket and head, then lubricate washers and nuts with oil or ARP moly prior to their installation.

Thats what it says on the little piece of paper that I just pulled out of a brand new box of ARP studs.

Like I said... I am not perfect, I dont know everything and I have done some stupid things before. Shit I do stupid things all the time. So if they are saying to install them wrong then I guess I am a fool for following directions and also doing what they taught me in school (Tech). I dont remember you being around much when I was puting YOUR motor in YOUR car. Oh wait you were sleeping, thats right! When you knew I was doing all the work for free to help a fellow DSMer out who needed to get his car running. Then you got pissed at me cause I couldnt make it up one weekend and you really wanted your car done. Then when I got the car running, what happened? You stopped talking to me... Never called anymore, wouldnt return calls, not even a Thank you. You did help me get that turbo from Peter (Eclipseturbo I believe it is) which I appreaciate very much since I was in pretty much despirate need of a turbo. But it seems as if you just were going to use me and didnt give a fuck about anything once your car was running. You must be too good for me, sorry I am not a professional engine builder and I was the cause of your motor going to shit. Also, I would like to know how that affected your motor? What did it do to it? Cause I guess I cant do it right, might as well learn from it.

Sounds like you took that to heart jakey

Too bad I was just screwin around. Its not like putting the moly lube there is bad, it just doesnt do anything lol. And since you love to give me shit I decided to give you some. And for the record, i still talk to your ass lol. And you werent the reason the engine went to shit! It was from sitting too long and the cylinder walls were pretty fucked

You need to calm down. I thought your original post was funny.. that was where this came from.

unreal808 · 05-13-2005

The person who assembled the engine, also has his positve AMP wire running out the hood and thru the door jam with no fuse. The same person is also driving around with a Vise-Grip on the brake line because it was leaking. The same person has to twist wires together to make things work in the car.

**Kracka** · 05-14-2005

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Originally Posted by unreal808

The person who assembled the engine, also has his positve AMP wire running out the hood and thru the door jam with no fuse. The same person is also driving around with a Vise-Grip on the brake line because it was leaking. The same person has to twist wires together to make things work in the car.

Stop talking about me!!! You know what, fuck you guys at least I tried.

Oh wait, nope wasn't me.....my mistake

But hey, at least they didn't use peanut butter as assembly lube *cough* NASCAR *cough*.

Matt D. · 05-14-2005

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Originally Posted by S2kracka

But hey, at least they didn't use peanut butter as assembly lube *cough* NASCAR *cough*.

I'd love to hear the story of how you learned that.

Swifty1638 · 05-13-2005

..and drives with a BIG wing on the rear, even though the car came with a molded stock wing! Well, it's time for me to go out and beat up on some other cars..ttyl!

-A. Swift