2011 Proving Grounds Road-Course discussion.

[Dizmm]

This year for the 2011 MAPerformance Proving Grounds, we have the road course for Saturday (June 25th 2011) only. There are 2 options as to how we use the road course. I'd love to hear feedback from those interested in attending.


Option 1:
Open Lapping Day (All Day)
Cost Per entry: $165
About 2 hours of track time per entry

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Option 2:
The day would be split into 2 events

Morning:
9am - 2pm - Open Lapping
Cost of $110 per entry with 1 hour of track time

Afternoon:
2pm-6pm - High Speed Auto-X (Timed Lap)
$90 per entry
about 5-8 timed runs per entry

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Thoughts? Ideas? Feedback? Feel free to let me know!

[Speedfreak]

Kind of a toss up, but I may lean toward open lapping the entire time.

[Dizmm]

I've came up with an option3:

What about 9-3 open lapping.

9:00 – 9:20 – Group A
9:20 – 9:40 – Group B
9:40 – 10:00 – Group C
10:00 – 10:20 – Group D
10:20 – 10:40 – Group A
10:40 – 11:00 – Group B
11:00 – 11:20 – Group C
11:20 – 11:40 – Group D
11:40 – 12:00 – Group A
12:00 – 12:20 – Lunch Break
12:20 – 12:40 – Group B
12:40 – 1:00 - Group C
1:00 – 1:20 – Group D
1:20 – 1:40 – Group A
1:40 – 2:00 – Group B
2:00 – 2:20 – Group C
2:20 – 2:40 – Group D
3:00PM - Timed Laps, end at 6pm

Then just $165 per entry.

15 cars per heat, 60 car cap.

Thats 1 hour, 20 min of track time plus your timed laps. I dont really like splitting the event into two.

[Speedfreak]

I see 40 minutes of lap time plus the timed laps per group?

[Dizmm]

Originally Posted by Speedfreak

I see 40 minutes of lap time plus the timed laps per group?

Thats 1 hour, 20 minutes per group, plus your timed laps. Should be plenty of seat time. by the end of the day, i assure you and your car will be tired.

Originally Posted by scheides

Dang, this kinda sucks. I was hoping to be able to do the trifecta this year: autox, drag, and short track, all in one weekend. Any way this can still be possible? Not sure what the rest of the schedule is like.

This was my idea last year. I'd still love to do this. I'll see what i can do.

Originally Posted by mlomker

Wasn't the so-called auto-x just timed laps last year, anyway? I didn't participate but that was what I had read.

The timed laps will be similar to a parking lots auto-x. Standing stop start, and basically a full lap with a flying finish. We'll send out a car every 20 seconds or so. Our timing can handle a 7 car sequence. Depending on the turnout, we should be able to get 3-4 timed runs in, maybe more.

[mlomker]

Option 3 sounds good, in general.

How would the timed portion work? Would you have two or three cars on the track at a time? I'm not sure how there'd be enough time, otherwise.

[scheides]

Dang, this kinda sucks. I was hoping to be able to do the trifecta this year: autox, drag, and short track, all in one weekend. Any way this can still be possible? Not sure what the rest of the schedule is like.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

You could drag race on Sunday.

[mlomker]

Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance

You could drag race on Sunday.

Wasn't the so-called auto-x just timed laps last year, anyway? I didn't participate but that was what I had read.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Do you get to do a lap or anything before the standing start to warm up the brakes?

[Dizmm]

Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance

Do you get to do a lap or anything before the standing start to warm up the brakes?

nope. its HSAX style.

brake shouldn’t need to be warmed up, i've used some really aggressive pads and they all worked immediately. Tires however are a different story. There shouldn’t be too much downtime between runs.

[Goat Blower]

I like option 3, and the idea of road course on Saturday, drag racing on Sunday. That way if I blow my shit up on the strip, I still had got my weekend's worth.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Was it a standing start last year?

[PSI2HI]

I know last year was open lapping saturday, not sure what went down sunday.

Anyways, typically most the auto-x stuff around here is lower speed. Point being is your not running corners or sweepers @ 60+mph. Went out on cold tires last year @ MAM and that was a handful and wont intentially be doing that again anytime soon. Whats the reason for not having a 2 day event this year?

[v8klla]

Originally Posted by PSI2HI

Whats the reason for not having a 2 day event this year?

Poor turnout on the road course last year Hopefully we can fill it up this year and have it all weekend in 2012!

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by PSI2HI

Anyways, typically most the auto-x stuff around here is lower speed. Point being is your not running corners or sweepers @ 60+mph.

You're running at the wrong autocross events.

[Dizmm]

Originally Posted by v8klla

Poor turnout on the road course last year Hopefully we can fill it up this year and have it all weekend in 2012!

hoping mother nature is nicer this year as well.

Originally Posted by Matt D.

You're running at the wrong autocross events.

ha 2nd that. i've been into 3rd numerous times in my evo.

[PSI2HI]

Originally Posted by Matt D.

You're running at the wrong autocross events.

Not a real huge fan of auto-x to start w/. That and the car just spins the tires in the low gears which really makes it pointless. Would much rather run open lapping road course then auto-x any day.

[Dizmm]

Originally Posted by PSI2HI

Not a real huge fan of auto-x to start w/. That and the car just spins the tires in the low gears which really makes it pointless. Would much rather run open lapping road course then auto-x any day.

thats why i feel option 3 is the best of both worlds. its basically a full lapping day, and as a bonus, we'll be doing timed laps at the end.

[Matt D.]

Originally Posted by PSI2HI

Not a real huge fan of auto-x to start w/. That and the car just spins the tires in the low gears which really makes it pointless. Would much rather run open lapping road course then auto-x any day.

As would I, but I'd rather have seat time than sit at home.