FP's new HTA86: HTA GT3586R

**scheides** · 10-29-2008

Some said that the original "HTA35R" was not worth it...it's a $400 option on top of the price of a GT35R. FP had actually made the turbo in an effort to make better low-end than a regular 35R, and they succeeded by making it with a smaller, more efficient wheel. One side effect was a little more top-end power than a standard 35R. Still a great turbo, but...

FP saw PTE's 6262 and decided to up the ante and make their HTA design full sized, and dub it the HTA86, or HTA GT3586R. The results speak for themselves, I will post dyno graphs as they come.

**scheides** · 10-29-2008

First up, standard GT35R vs HTA86 on an STI. 34psi:

Yes, that is a 81whp/57wtq gain with zero loss in bottom end.

dsm9sec · 10-29-2008

Meh.. You can already go 9's on a regular GT35R, they need to work on spooling bigger turbos faster.

**scheides** · 10-29-2008

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Originally Posted by dsm9sec

Meh.. You can already go 9's on a regular GT35R, they need to work on spooling bigger turbos faster.

Thus the HTA82. Check the other thread for info on that one.

Variable vein turbos are not going to make it into the market overnight

**JET** · 10-29-2008

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Originally Posted by scheides

Variable vein turbos are not going to make it into the market overnight

Yeah, they have only been around in production cars since the 80's

The HTA86 looks nice!

**scheides** · 10-29-2008

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Originally Posted by dsm9sec

Meh.. You can already go 9's on a regular GT35R, they need to work on spooling bigger turbos faster.

Also, yes you can go 9's on a regular 35R, but guess what, people are knocking on the door of 8's with this thing!

GREASEMONKEY · 10-29-2008

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Originally Posted by scheides

Also, yes you can go 9's on a regular 35R, but guess what, people are knocking on the door of 8's with this thing!

How is 9.0 @ 160 not knocking on the door of 8's?

-dsm9sec

**scheides** · 10-30-2008

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Originally Posted by GREASEMONKEY

How is 9.0 @ 160 not knocking on the door of 8's?

-dsm9sec

How's your math? .01 second faster than 9.0 is 8.99....which is an 8 second pass....knocking on the door, as in the potential is there, the times are almost there, just need to pull it off.

dsm9sec · 10-30-2008

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Originally Posted by scheides

How's your math? .01 second faster than 9.0 is 8.99....which is an 8 second pass....knocking on the door, as in the potential is there, the times are almost there, just need to pull it off.

**Halon** · 10-30-2008

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Originally Posted by scheides

How's your math? .01 second faster than 9.0 is 8.99....which is an 8 second pass....knocking on the door, as in the potential is there, the times are almost there, just need to pull it off.

I'm going to take a wild guess here, and say what he was getting at is some's ran a 9.0 on a GT35, hense why he said "how is 9.0 NOT knocking on the door of 8's." Maybe you miss understood his statement.

Anyhow, cool turbo. If I could do things all over again and start from scratch, I'd be running all FP stuff.

**scheides** · 10-29-2008

This is a comparison between buschur's FS365 (believed to just be the PTE 6262) and the HTA86 @ 42psi:

Notice the gain in power everywhere!
This car ran 9.2@157?mph before it blew up the rear diff and ended the season.

This is the HTA86 versus the FP RED:

The car had previously run 9.57@~145mph with the red. This is a maxed out car with zero compromise concerning power. Big cams, aem, built motor, head, ported everything, etc.

turbotalon1g · 10-29-2008

Too big for me.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo · 10-29-2008

They need to actually make a big turbo.

brando · 10-29-2008

and 42's go 7's

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 10-29-2008

Damn, that thing is a beast. I wonder if the stock internals in my 1G can handle 700hp?

**scheides** · 10-29-2008

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Originally Posted by brando

and 42's go 7's

And spool like shit. This turbo is real-world driveable.

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Originally Posted by ecoli

Damn, that thing is a beast. I wonder if the stock internals in my 1G can handle 700hp?

DO IT! It would bolt into your existing hotside! Call FP NOW!

4g63tcrazy · 10-29-2008

Haha let's see you make it happen!

turbotalon1g · 10-29-2008

^word. Make it happen. Plus you need to get your car running again and have some fun with us on spring opener.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 10-29-2008

How well will it work the maxed out 2G MAS, maxed out single Walbro fuel pump, ancient Turblownetics Racegate with 6psi spring, and too small of an intake pipe?

Matt D. · 10-29-2008

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Originally Posted by ecoli

How well will it work the maxed out 2G MAS, maxed out single Walbro fuel pump, ancient Turblownetics Racegate with 6psi spring, and too small of an intake pipe?

Just hack the MAS, honeycombs are for bees, and fuck bees.