4G63 in a Conquest/Starion

AJ · 07-28-2006

Anyone knwo fo any good sites that go over this swap and what's all involved. Just looking for my own viewing pleasure.

**JET** · 07-28-2006

Buscur has most of the parts listed on their site that you would need.

Shotgun! · 07-28-2006

www.projectzerog.com
Fuck Bushnuts, he is the opposite of a resource.

The 2.0 is an okay swap, but if you are going thru the trouble, do something useful. My favorites are: RB26, 6g74, 2.17
Remember that you won't have the DSM tranny holding you back.

**JET** · 07-28-2006

LS1 would be my choice if you are going to swap. If you're gonna go, go big! Won't weigh much more than the 2.6l since it is all aluminum.

**Kracka** · 07-28-2006

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LS1 would be my choice if you are going to swap. If you're gonna go, go big! Won't weigh much more than the 2.6l since it is all aluminum.

Or just buy a Camaro since the whole car would probably be half the price of a swap and can't weight a whole lot more.

Speedfreak · 07-28-2006

Doesnt the widebody 2.4 bolt up to the stock tranny on these? Thats what I was planning on mine, but never got to it, and probably never will. Allan, buy mine!

**JET** · 07-28-2006

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Or just buy a Camaro since the whole car would probably be half the price of a swap and can't weight a whole lot more.

The starion is a good 500 lbs lighter. Flat rear window so plexi is easy, seats weigh like 90 lbs each, so it is easy to lose more weight.

Why is a 2.17l swap cool, but a LS1 is sacriledge?

iceminion · 07-29-2006

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...LS1 is sacriledge?

Nice choice of words, straight from this months Sport Compact Car! (Not that I read such a wussy mag)

But they put a LS6/LS7? in a 3rd Gen RX7....adding a total of 67Lbs or something like that. 350 HP vs. the stock >200 is a great deal if its that light!

I would put a turbo LS in my car, but there is no room, on the starion there might be tho.....

Shotgun! · 07-28-2006

Yes it does. The 2.4 will break the tranny though, they arn't made for high horsepower. There really isn't much reason to get rid of the G54B. Not to replace it with something like the 4g64 anyway.

FattyBoomBatty · 07-28-2006

Conquests are for pussies. get a man's car, a CAMARO! It already has a v8!

I'll sell you my car plus most of what you need to convert to MPI for $5995. I'll sell you a big honkin' turbo if you want that too. 569whp and 600 wtq on a setup very similar to mine.

Comes with several extra parts like springs, and random things I find in my garage that can fit in the trunk.

FattyBoomBatty · 07-28-2006

In the mitsu family. That's all.

If money wasn't an issue, and I really really wanted a sweet quest, I'd put a 1UZFE (?) toyota v8 in and turbo it.

AJ · 07-28-2006

"If" I was to do something like this I'd swap it to a 4G63/4 and nothing else. It wouldn't be anything insane and if the stock motor coudl handle 300hp boosted I'd probably not do a swap. I've read a lot of bad shit about the stock heads as well.

Mo, what's an asking price

Speedfreak · 07-29-2006

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"If" I was to do something like this I'd swap it to a 4G63/4 and nothing else. It wouldn't be anything insane and if the stock motor coudl handle 300hp boosted I'd probably not do a swap. I've read a lot of bad shit about the stock heads as well.

Mo, what's an asking price

Well if you wanted to stick with the stock motor, it's all there, minus a good head. The head is there, but I took it off, and the journals are messed. I'm not sure what a reasonable price is for something like this.. anyone have any ideas?

FattyBoomBatty · 07-29-2006

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Well if you wanted to stick with the stock motor, it's all there, minus a good head. The head is there, but I took it off, and the journals are messed. I'm not sure what a reasonable price is for something like this.. anyone have any ideas?

If you recall, I think I talked to you about it at the NSX/s2k meet. The price we talked about is about right. More for a really clean body. What journals are messed up? The ones in the head? I have a bare head sitting in my garage that is free and I'm pretty sure it's fine.

Speedfreak · 07-29-2006

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If you recall, I think I talked to you about it at the NSX/s2k meet. The price we talked about is about right. More for a really clean body. What journals are messed up? The ones in the head? I have a bare head sitting in my garage that is free and I'm pretty sure it's fine.

Yup, I do remember. I figured that was about right, but you never know until people more familiar with a specific model has input. I would let the car go for $500 as it sits.

Yeah its the cam journals. When I got the car the guys said the head just needs some work, and I towed it away on that premise. When I took it apart, I realised he was clueless. I really wanted to finish and drive this car because I've always liked them, but I have too many cars and too many projects.

**Kracka** · 07-28-2006

Oh shit be ready for Reid to pounce.

Super Bleeder!! · 07-28-2006

i bet you mo would pay you to take it away!

Kougar · 07-28-2006

Why does Reid need to be the one to pounce? Meh.

Yea, stock heads are flowing nightmares compared to a 4g63 head. Even with everything you can do to the head, it's flow still won't be all that impressive. Who cares though. People who buy a conquest (and stay g54b) are looking for torque, and that's exactly what it dishes out. MPI + big turbo have yielded awesome results already. 500hp+ is a reality, even with the flow rates of the head.

Alan - Honestly, I think it's cheaper and easier to get 300hp (and gobs more torque than a 4g63) out of the stock engine, then it is to swap a 4g63 in it.

And as for the F-body comment: What would be easier to work on? LS1 in a conquest, or LS1 in the F-body. Hmmm...

1QUICK4 · 07-29-2006

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And as for the F-body comment: What would be easier to work on? LS1 in a conquest, or LS1 in the F-body. Hmmm...

Hahahaha... Obviously you've never worked on an LS1 Camaro. They are a PITA. At least in a StarQuest the LS1 motor wouldn't be halfway under the firewall.

Kougar · 07-31-2006

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Hahahaha... Obviously you've never worked on an LS1 Camaro. They are a PITA. At least in a StarQuest the LS1 motor wouldn't be halfway under the firewall.

That's what I'm saying man. Dropping the cradle to swap the engine (on f-body) vs pulling it from the top (with a swapped quest). I'm a GM Tech, I know the F-body good enough...