Hydrogen Generator for my daily car

Onefast99gsx · 05-03-2006

I just purchased this today. This particular one is over $175 now on ebay but every few days or so he'll have a buy it now for $99 on one. If you don't know what they are, it's a device that splits water into H2 + O and you inject it into your car. It's a process called electrolysis. It does work! Way back in school we did an experiement with it. I've done alot of research over the past 2 weeks and i've found sites on the net with plans. The best are the ones that use a PWM voltage signal. I'm not sure what this one is. My plan is to reverse engineer it and possibly make it better to generate more H2. They are selling like hotcakes and he has great feedback on them. Do a search on ebay for Hydrogen Generator. This particular ones seems to be the best one. I'll post back on my success with it. I'll be happy with anything between 2 - 5 mpg extra, but would be really happy with more. I ordered it because the winning bid price keeps going up. A few days ago they were in the $150 range, now they are in the $180 range. Watch for the Buy it now ones that appear. I got lucky and got for $99

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Generat...QQcmdZViewItem

Gravy · 05-03-2006

You can build a car that runs soly on this set up. HOWEVER, you do need to prep a 100$ water car. Running a small amount shouldn't hurt you, but i've wanted to install one on a vehicle and try it.

Let me know how it goes, interested to see how it works out for you. Post any difference in Accel//0-6, mpg increase. I'm interested to see if i should build my own, or get some of these bad boys.

Pimpin Dsmstyle · 05-03-2006

Hmm.. wouldn't take long to gain back your money if it turns out to work. I don't know if it would be worth 2mpg so much as it would if it was 5mpg. You would probably gain your moneys worth back in 1-2 months if it was 5mpg + !

Onefast99gsx · 05-03-2006

Yes, I will definately post back. My daily is a '97 Grand AM Quad 4, 5 speed. I get anywhere from 25 to 29 mpg, depending on riding habits. I've never gotten more than that. This system WILL work. I'll just have to see how much. Any gain is worth it to me. It was only $135 total shipped. Like I said, alot of the success of it depends on the power supply. The plate design inside plays a part too. Your goal is to generate the H2 as fast as possible. I'm not sure how it all works with the o2 sensor. Ultimately when you inject the H2, you want the ECU to back off the fuel supply.

Keeps ya's posted...

FattyBoomBatty · 05-03-2006

why not make it yourself? looks pretty easy. and it also sounds like a gimmic, but maybe it's not.

Thor06 · 05-03-2006

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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty

it also sounds like a gimmic

Thats what I was thinking. How can they split the molecules of water without and electrolyte? Pure water itself doesnt conduct electricity so I dont see how electrolysis can work. Your money, your call. Definately post back, I'm very interested to see if it works.

Onefast99gsx · 05-03-2006

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Originally Posted by Thor06

Thats what I was thinking. How can they split the molecules of water without and electrolyte? Pure water itself doesnt conduct electricity so I dont see how electrolysis can work. Your money, your call. Definately post back, I'm very interested to see if it works.

Good point, I didn't bring that up. There is an electrolyte. Some electrolytes are just water & sodium.

Read this...

http://www.netmar.com/~maat/archive/...ar/h20car2.htm

Gravy · 05-04-2006

I've seen a Geo gone full water get 95 mpg. And, that's full water, out of the tap and a dual re-use system. The guy filtered the water coming from the tank, released it in small amounts into the engine, just enough to run it, and after the burn efect, he ran it through another filter. He had horrible backpresure, but he re-used the water that didn't burn and re-cycled it into the tank.

I'm not sure where the link is, but for 100 mpg i'd be willing to drop a few hundred bucks.

Black97civic · 05-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Gravy

I'm not sure where the link is, but for 100 mpg i'd be willing to drop a few hundred bucks.

The problem is where does the electricity come from to split the water into hydrogen. You electric bills are gonna go up while your gas station costs go down.

**JET** · 05-05-2006

This whole thread was good for a laugh, but this is the best!!!

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Originally Posted by Gravy

but he re-used the water that didn't burn and re-cycled it into the tank.

Our education system has gone down the shitter. Since when does water burn??

Here is an bit from his Ebay ad:
Also there is no secret calculations to get multiple units to work on your car. I will not help you , it will help you burn out your alternator is what it will do and any gains you would have seen will be eaten up in load on the alternators , now there is a way to get around it and this only works in electrolysis, you get the same output if you say use 22.5 watts or 225 watts . You can use a dc to dc converter and run the unit at 1.5 volts ( min is 1.2 volts ) and 15 amps or you can run it at 12 volts at 15 amps , the output will be the same. If you use a dc to dc converter to do the job , then you could in reality run more units. Most people barely have room for one and do not want to maintain more than one , it would be a hassle and hardly worth it as you would still not see much more in gains and still need to run on gasoline or diesel.

If you admit that the amount of gains will be eaten up by the alternator by hooking up multiple units, how would it be much different than running one unit?

Also, it holds one quart of water. How much hydrogen do you think you are going to get from one quart of water? This is another marketing gimmick praying on people that already pay too much for fuel. I know a guy that swore up and down his platinum injection doo hicky made his gas mileage much better. He bought those vials of "platinum" for quite a while until he realized that it wasn't actually doing anything. A lot of these things have a placebo effect. You think it is doing something, you pay attention more and you are a little easier on the gas pedal.

Thor06 · 05-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Onefast99gsx

Good point, I didn't bring that up. There is an electrolyte. Some electrolytes are just water & sodium.

Read this...

http://www.netmar.com/~maat/archive/...ar/h20car2.htm

I know salts dissolved in water makes an electrolyte, but the auction says that it doesnt need an electrolyte. No electrolyte, no conductivity, no hydrogen.

Onefast99gsx · 05-03-2006

Well I do plan on making my own, I guess I just wanted to buy one from this guy before the prices got too out of hand and just improve upon it. That way I at least got something going while i'm in the process of redesign. Making Hydrogen is easy. Actually, you can make it just by sticking an alum can in a water & lye solution.

And Yes, you could make this system produce much, much more with a larger unit and a $100 shit box car. I'm just gonna start small. If I think too big right away, nothing will ever get built.

**Halon** · 05-04-2006

Kinda interesting! I'm curious to see how it works for you

**1ViciousGSX** · 05-05-2006

Snake oil anyone?

Onefast99gsx · 05-05-2006

What I should be getting in the mail in a day or two isn't a pure 100% water run car product. It's to give extra mpg. You still run normal gasoline. Also, you don't inject the water in it's H2O state as such like water injection. Read up. It goes through a process of electrolysis. You separate the H2 from the O (oxy). I'd be skeptical too, however I actually have done this way back in 10th grade science class. It wasn't hard at all. We then ignited the H2. We all know H2 is very flammable (Hindenburg blimp). There is no question whether it will work or not. The question is how much H2 it will generate per minute.

I promise I will post back once I get it hooked up.

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It's hard to believe that we drink something that has a gas that's very flammable in it.

**Halon** · 05-07-2006

I still want to know how they got that delorean to run off peoples garbage!

Onefast99gsx · 05-08-2006

I don't know, talk to Dr. Emmett Brown

**1ViciousGSX** · 05-09-2006

Stop arguing, put it on the car and tell us how you found it's not worth spending the money.

Onefast99gsx · 05-09-2006

Well i emailed the guy because I haven't received it yet. The ad say 2-3 day priority and it's been about 5. They emailed me back shortly again and said to be patient. They've been extremely his wife said. They said to wait a week yet. So basically what they don't tell you is that it's not build yet. I wrote back and said thanks for being honest. So I probably won't have any updates for about 1.5 weeks. Don't worry, it will yield results. I just don't know how much.

I'm not endorsing the product in any way. I just know that electrolysis works. Like i've said in at least 2 posts of mine above, i've done it. It does produce highly flammable H2.

**JET** · 05-10-2006

I am still a skeptic too. That link you provided has absolutely no proof or even scientific data of any sort. He even said he was fooled by a car that was running on partially gas. I want to see some real proof.