02-19-2005
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Like fine wine,.....
It's worth the download time.
Please right-click and save.
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02-19-2005
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Any 2 card caller.
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
Congrats on the 60' time!!! Holy Shit!!!!!!!!!!
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02-19-2005
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formerly ecoli
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
Damn, that thing sounds like a V8. Is that a 383 stroker in there now? You will be in the 9s before the tracks even open up here.
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02-19-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
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Originally Posted by ecoli
Damn, that thing sounds like a V8. Is that a 383 stroker in there now? You will be in the 9s before the tracks even open up here.
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 I killed a bank so it would be a fair run. 
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02-19-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
What does the rest of the slip look like Mike? With that 60' if you had a near perfect run the rest of the way down the track I would say your almost maxed out with that turbo. What was your 1/8 mile speed?
If DSM's could pull 60's like that at Rock Falls there would be a few more DSM's in the 10s from Minnesota.
CRAIG
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02-19-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
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Originally Posted by CRAIG
What does the rest of the slip look like Mike? With that 60' if you had a near perfect run the rest of the way down the track I would say your almost maxed out with that turbo. What was your 1/8 mile speed?
If DSM's could pull 60's like that at Rock Falls there would be a few more DSM's in the 10s from Minnesota.
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I have the run on the "Timeslips" page.
I would have went faster on my last run, but like a dumbass, I missed my 3rd gear shift. But looking at the log, it was definately a better tune than this run. 
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02-19-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
Gratz on the run, Mike!
He definately isn't maxed out on that turbo yet. I ran a 123 on the 50 trim at 26 psi, so he has a long ways to go yet. You should be able to get in the 130's no problem.
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02-19-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
Mike, how agressively are you tuning the car? Seems to me like you are missing roughly 70 more HP or more somewhere in your tuning. I would think with that boost you would be trapping around 130. And with that killer 60', that would put you in the 10s for sure.
Just curious if you are just slowly bumping everything up each time you go.
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02-19-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
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Originally Posted by CRAIG
Mike, how agressively are you tuning the car? Seems to me like you are missing roughly 70 more HP or more somewhere in your tuning. I would think with that boost you would be trapping around 130. And with that killer 60', that would put you in the 10s for sure.
Just curious if you are just slowly bumping everything up each time you go.
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Making adjustments after reviewing each run on DSMLink. No radical adjustments, a little here, a little there. I had to re-adjust my fuel tuning since I fixed those boost leaks (after re-checking the car again today, I found a new one  ). There were off pretty good as I had tuned it pretty well before I had a chance to leak check it last week.
There are no more boost leaks NOW. The system held 40 psi for 5 minutes with no leaks to be found.  Needless to say that was a long and nervous 5 minutes. 
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02-19-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
How much timing are you running?
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02-19-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
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Originally Posted by CRAIG
How much timing are you running?
CRAIG
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24 deg max with no knock.
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02-20-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
You definately have a bottle neck some where. Too bad you have a 2g, I would send you my 3" O2 eliminator with atmospheric dump. The angle of the recirculation into that 02 eliminator is not good. It comes in at way too steep of an angle. That is the only thing I could see in your system being a problem. The Greddy FMIC isn't huge, but should be good for more than ~460 whp.
You are still putting down some good numbers, I am not dissing your setup. I am just trying to help get even more out of it.
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02-20-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
I'm thinking some of it's from the turbo. It's basically a GT30 .56 trim 55 lb/min in a Mitsu style exhaust housing (copy of the L2R). I'm starting to think the exhaust housing is choking it down.
I'm still working the on tune also. My fuel logs showed a change since I got those boost leaks fixed. It's close, but I think I can get it better.
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Last edited by 1ViciousGSX; 02-20-2005 at 10:51 AM..
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02-20-2005
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Mazda Bitch
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
That's awesome, congrats Mike!! 
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02-20-2005
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formerly ecoli
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
He is in a full weight 2G also, so you have to consider that he is probably something like 400lbs more than what you 1G guys are used to, thats a few mph right there. Also, maybe that turbo isn't quit cracked up to be what we would expect, what is the exhaust housing on it like? A 55lb/min comp wheel should perform a bit better than a 50-trim, but it seems to be performing about the same. 28psi on a 2.4l motor should just about max out the flow capabilites of that turbo, but it still seems a little bit down on power. With a 122mph trap and the wieght of the car, I would guess the car is putting down somewhere around 460fwhp, but I would have expected that turbo to be able to push a bit over 500fwhp at 28psi on a 2.4l.
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02-20-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
I was thinking he was down at least 50 whp too. This is the only thing I could see as a possible bottleneck in the system (besides possibly the turbo).
The air from the WG is coming it at a really nasty angle and is probably really hampering exhaust flow.
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02-20-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
New tubular manifold, O2 housing, down pipe and GT35R coming soon. 
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02-20-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
Sweet! What kind?
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02-20-2005
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
PTE GT35R
Either an AlienAuto or VPE tubuar manifold.
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02-20-2005
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Asshat King
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Re: Like fine wine,.....
AlienAuto? Do you have a link to them?
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