Need Motor Help !

07-09-2004

I got a call today from the shop that has been working on my car. To make a long story short, #2 and #4 arent firing. I either need to
A. rebuild or
B. Swap

For those of you who dont know I have a mitsubishi eclipse GS with a t3/t4 turbo. What would you suggest? Either way im looking at about $2,000 to get her up and running. any advice/help would be AWSOME !!!!
Jim

john · 07-09-2004

Could it just be the coils? Why do they think you need to rebuild? Cylinders not firing usually have something to do with spark.

Matt D. · 07-09-2004

Jim, from what I've read of your posts on MNSC about your car in this shop, I'd yank it from there ASAP and take it somewhere else. There is just too much stuff going on that is totally unrelated to eachother.

**1ViciousGSX** · 07-09-2004

Make sure the plug wires between those two cylinders aren't swapped by accident.
1 & 4 go together
2 & 3 go together

Enes · 07-09-2004

he does not have 4g63 he has the 420 i think..

-E

07-09-2004

I have the 420

07-09-2004

what things are you referring too that dont add up Matt? I broke my oil seal....lost almost all my oil, unknowingly, which cause #2 and #4 to break or crack? This is what they told me happened, does it make sense?
Jim

**1ViciousGSX** · 07-09-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by 1ViciousGSX+Jul 9 2004, 12:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (1ViciousGSX @ Jul 9 2004, 12:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Make sure the plug wires between those two cylinders aren't swapped by accident.
1 & 4 go together
2 & 3 go together[/b]

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he does not have 4g63* he has the 420 i think..

-E[/quote]
Still applies.

Raptor · 07-09-2004

Not firing doesn't always mean there is no spark. If they are telling him he needs a rebuild or swap, maybe there is 0 compression in them for some reason.

**1ViciousGSX** · 07-09-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by Raptor@Jul 9 2004, 04:16 PM
Not firing doesn't always mean there is no spark. If they are telling him he needs a rebuild or swap, maybe there is 0 compression in them for some reason.

I was just offering up something simple to check just in case. It would suck if that was it and they pulled the engine for nothing. I would hope they checked the compression already.

07-09-2004

they comp tested and #2 had 0 compression
Jim

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 07-09-2004

Sounds like the turbo killed the motor. Was it a real turbo kit with proper fueling? Was it ever tuned? How much boost was it running?

Enes · 07-09-2004

if i remember right he was getting his fuel afterwards, he was runnig like 8psi of boost...

E

07-09-2004

I just got my boost controller fixed, so It had only ran 4 PSi until about 10 minutes before this all happened. When the car backfired it was at 8 PSi

07-09-2004

and I had upgraded fuel parts in the mail on the way !

john · 07-10-2004

Sounds like time for a 4g63...

**1ViciousGSX** · 07-10-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by 92tsiawd84@Jul 10 2004, 01:16 AM
Sounds like time for a 4g63...

That's not an easy swap in a 420A car.

1QUICK4 · 07-10-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by 1ViciousGSX+Jul 10 2004, 06:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (1ViciousGSX @ Jul 10 2004, 06:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-92tsiawd84@Jul 10 2004, 01:16 AM
Sounds like time for a 4g63...

That's not an easy swap in a 420A car. [/b][/quote]
Evo VIII Motor swap?

AJ · 07-10-2004

Just build a 420A up to hold some serious boost.

07-10-2004

thats what im thinking of doing, but short on cash right now. I had plans of doing that in a few months, I dont have the cash to build up the internals right now. I think I'll just do the swap now, upgrade my fuel system. Then build the internals at a later date. I dont see me selling the car anytime soon anymore.