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Old 09-06-2012   #1
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Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

My Talon is finally all put together and I went to the dyno for the second time this year (had oil pump issues a month ago). I was more than pleasantly surprised with the results. Shane Ziegler tuned the car and it put down some serious numbers on DB Performance's dyno. Precisely speaking - 859.8 WHP and 642 ft/lb at 35.2 psi of boost. That was the number in Shootout Mode (Dynojet Guestimate). The actual DynoDynamics numbers were 740.2 WHP and 563 ft/lb. I am super excited about it and it couldn't have happened at a better time, since it was my actual birthday. The essential mods are 2.4 long rod G4CS with Pauter/Ross 9:1 combo, Keflord 276/280, Magnus Cast intake, 2150s, twin walbros, Punishement header, DBB PTE 6266, Garret 4" thick FMIC and DSMLink v3 running speed density. The run was done on straight E98.

A detailed list of every single modification to the car is on my website at: http://www.bulfab.com/Pages/RaceCar.aspx

The car weighs 2660 without me in it, I am around 180-ish. Last year I ran a best of 10.38@142 with a 1.71 60' time (1/8 mile trap was 111). At that time it made 657 WHP and it had a very tired 2.0 in it. It has a Shep stage 4 trans with a GearDrive Quartermaster, but my t-case, rear diff and axles are stock. I hope that if I preload everything and I am nice to it, it can run a 9.9x. Hopefully it all works out.

Big thanks to Jake Vogel for spending countless hours with me in the shop working on the car and Shane for the tuning it.

Here is a video of the dyno pulls:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6lgDuOipkI&hd=1

Here are some pictures of the car and the dyno sheets:

http://www.bulfab.com/SiteImages/740.jpg
http://www.bulfab.com/SiteImages/859.jpg
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Old 09-06-2012   #2
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

I'm glad it held together! Hopefully it runs what we expect!

Well worth all the time and hard work! Congrats again man! Awesome "Birthday Present".

Now time to race the bike! haha
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Old 09-06-2012   #3
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

Very nice. When are you taking it to the track?
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Old 09-06-2012   #4
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

That is fucking badass, good luck to you. Good to see there are still more high power DSMs in MN/local.

*I want that exact setup in my car*

Any reason you chose the long-rod motor? just for safety/peace of mind? They are kind of rare.

Also forgot, happy birthday!
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

Hopefully Saturday we will be at Rockfalls to see what happens.

I'll let him explain the motor situation... But all said and done, I'm glad he went this route.

The car makes crazy power... Shane did the first 3-4 pulls on the dyno just to heat up the tires cause they were spinning at the beginning of the day. Then it was solid from there on out.

We have a local guy that sells E98 for $3.84/gal. He has 250 gallons right now and you can drive your car there and fill up if you really want and he is there every day of the week. Pretty badass when you can get it for cheaper than 93 octane!
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Old 09-06-2012   #6
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

740 AWHP is serious business on Shane's dyno. Very solid.
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

That is crazy awesome power for that turbo! Good luck!
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Old 09-06-2012   #8
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

I think we starting running out of fuel pump and balls to push it more. We didn't totally max the turbo or the octane or run into knock or try to push the tune to the max.
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

Yeah we were pretty conservative with it... I cant believe it just kept making more and more power. I'd rather see it conservative vs being maxed out where one little thing could make the car explode, like a ticking time bomb.

Thanks again Shane for the knowledge and tune! You definitely have the touch!
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

It is a DSM after all.

Grats, that's awesome!
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

^ (always someone)

Be careful running more boost a guy on link just had his lockup at 40psi for no apparent reason, PTE came on link and said they suggest 30-35 psi.

Good luck on saturday.
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

We turned it down from 35 to 32... Made 2 back to back 725whp (DD Numbers) pulls and kept it there. The car was running out of fuel at 35psi and one blip from the pumps and the motor is toast, so we turned it back and called it a day. Better safe than sorry.
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

Holy fawk that is some power, and on a 62mm. Very impressive!

By chance, would you expand upon your fuel pump setup? Which pumps (255?), in-tank parallel or some sort of internal/external in-line setup? Use a BAP or anything?

Congrats on the redonk numbers!!!
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

Just twin 255's with the full blown hanger, -10AN feed to the fuel lab inline filter in the engine bay to the rail. 2150 injectors. Nothing all that special.

No BAP either.
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

Thanks for that. Good to know twin in-tank 255's can support that much power, on e98 even.
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Re: Made 859 whp on my Talon with a PTE 6266

Freaking crazy power! Good luck at the track, this thing looks just sick!
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That thing looks like a beast, congratulations!
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Very nice!

Good luck on your 9.xx run
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Awesome Vassil! Geez, I wasn't even close to pushing my two Wally's when I had them.
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Holy crap, that's awesome! Congrats on the numbers, get that thing to the track ASAP for timeslips!
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